IATF Guidance to ISO/TS 16949:2002

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Tina W

I have received a copy of TS 16949:2002. As I read through the Introduction a statment caught my attention. The document states "0.3.1 IATF Guidance to ISO/TS 16949:2002
IATF Guidance to ISO/TS 16949:2002 is a document containing recommended automotive industry practices, examples.......etc."
Does any one know where I can get a copy of this document?
 
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Sam

You can purchase that document at AIAG when it is available, sometime in the near future.
 
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Tina W

Thanks Sam

Do you know when the document might be available?
The sooner I can get my hands on it the faster I can start implementing

Tina
 
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Sam

At the rollout meeting we were told that all documents could be purchased in May. I was told last week they will not be ready until June, and they are not taking backorders. So, I guess we can try again in June.
 

Manoj Mathur

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Mathur :bonk:

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We in India are getting this New Standard Copy since May 2002. I hope by now you must have received it. If not pl. let me know, It is available in soft copy ( MS-WORD Format). And It could be sent to you
 
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tomvehoski

I called AIAG last week and the guidance documents are now in stock. Their website shows prices. I believe they are hard copy only. We let our memebership lapse, so I have not ordered yet while I am waiting on our marketing people to resolve the issue.

Tom
 
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Sam

Tina W.
There are two additional documents that you should also aquire from AIAG.
- Quality System Assessment Checklist - Checklist to ISO/TS16949:2002,

- Automotive certification scheme for ISO/TS 16949:2002
 
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Tina W

Thanks
I've now ordered a copy of the Guidance to ISO/TS and the checklist but what is the Automotive certification scheme for ISO/TS 16949:2002.

Thanks Tina
 
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tomvehoski

Tina,

I believe the Certification Scheme document is the "rules" for registration. Basically the new version of Appendix G, H & I from QS-9000.

Tom
 
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Sam

Tina,
This is a "must have" document. It does describe the rule and regs. for the CB. But more importantly it provides a breakdown of mandays required for new registration as well as reduced mandays for cpmpanies with existing certification.
I have received quotes from (5) different CB's for the following;
- upgrade from QS to TS
- transfer of ISO 14001 certificate

Having spent a week reviewing (4) quotes (one CB did not quote) I have found the following:
- price variation from $31,500 to $60,000,expenses not
included,
- variation in manday requirements from 9 to 13 for TS,
- variation in ISO from a transfer and audit to a complete re-
registration,
- all CB's but one required semi-annual audits. This is not a
TS requirement nor is there a benefit to the organization.
- there is no consistency in the quote packages. ex. some
break down the quote by year, some give a lump sum
three year cost. Some charge application fees, some
don't,etc.
- Some CB's also require (2) surveillance audits in the same
year that you were upgraded.

This is truly a "buyer beware" procdess.
:thedeal:
 
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