IATF Information - Rules for Achieving IATF Recognition - TS 16949 3rd Edition

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#11
Did you know that both organizations (IAOB and AIAG) live in the same building?
Yep, been there. How about ASQ, RABQSA and ANAB?

American Society for Quality
600 North Plankinton Avenue
Milwaukee, WI 53203

RABQSA International
Suite 301, 600 N. Plankinton Avenue
Milwaukee, WI 53201-0602

ANSI-ASQ National Accreditation Board
600 N. Plankinton Ave. Suite 300
Milwaukee, WI 53203
 
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#15
Do you still have the "old" version? Lay them side-by-side and compare. ;)

Stijloor.
Yes, we still have the 2nd Edition, but since we just ordered yesterday by mail, it will take some time until we receive it at factory, this is considering the time they will receive our order, processing time, delivery time and the time our import/export department will take to bring it to our factory in Mexico, I estimate at least 2 weeks until I have on my hands to verify it, that's why I'm here asking for advice.

:thanks:
 

Stijloor

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Super Moderator
#16
Yes, we still have the 2nd Edition, but since we just ordered yesterday by mail, it will take some time until we receive it at factory, this is considering the time they will receive our order, processing time, delivery time and the time our import/export department will take to bring it to our factory in Mexico, I estimate at least 2 weeks until I have on my hands to verify it, that's why I'm here asking for advice.

:thanks:
Gaby,

I PMed you.

Stijloor.
 
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#18
I have shared my quick view of the E-Document with Gaby, and asked Gaby to share with others.
Here's the information shared by Z-Man:

I'll skim through it now, and see what I can spot. I have not looked at it, since most of my work is ISO 9001, not ISO/TS 16949:2002. Here's what I can quickly see:

1) There are some parts of ISO/IEC 17021 that the IATF does not agree with. They are noted and explained.

2) A table to describe when more witness audits are done.

3) More requirements for how CBs are organized and run.

4) More details on audit day calculations/permitted reductions.

5) Better description of how to handle supporting activities; either on-site or remote.

6) Better descriptrions of Stage 1 and Stage 2.

7) A transfer audit; where client changes CBs.

8) A Terms and Definitions section.

9) Examples of audit day calculations.

That's about it. I'm sure I missed some big items, but there is no description of what was changed on one or two pages for you. Hope it helps!
Once again, thank you very much for your support.

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xfngrs

Quite Involved in Discussions
#19
Thanks for the synopsis, but my question is a little different.

On the AIAG website they list a "regular" version and an "Auditor" version. Does anybody know what the difference would be? I've e-mailed AIAG, but no response yet.
 

Stijloor

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Super Moderator
#20
Thanks for the synopsis, but my question is a little different.

On the AIAG website they list a "regular" version and an "Auditor" version. Does anybody know what the difference would be? I've e-mailed AIAG, but no response yet.
Simple, the auditor version is produced in a smaller format so that the auditor can put it in his/her pocket(book).

Stijloor.
 
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