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We're batting around a concept here, so let's see what you folks think:
Per the standard, "the organization shall audit it's quality management system to verify compliance with this Technical specification and any additional quality management system requirements." Well, one of the first things we did with TS was sit down as a management team and decide what processes were part of this Quality Management system, either as "customer oriented processes" or as Support or Mops. Okay, let's assume you then go about auditing all of these processes you have decided were part of the QMS. When you are done auditing all these processes, have you then in fact audited the "QMS to verify compliance with this Technical specification?"
Where I'm coming from is one of our other divisions was audited and they got dinged for not auditing every ELEMENT of the Standard. The auditor wanted to see a specific element by element checklist showing they'd covered all the bases. I thought about it and got to looking at all our processes and then the standard itself, and couldn't come up with any part of the standard that would not be covered by auditing one or several of our processes. Soooooo, if we audit all the processes we cover all the standard?
Before you attack, er I mean "add your constructive criticism,"
I know this wouldn't necessarily hold true everywhere, because it is dependent on what processes you determined were part of the QMS. But our processes list is pretty extensive.
What do ya'll think?
Per the standard, "the organization shall audit it's quality management system to verify compliance with this Technical specification and any additional quality management system requirements." Well, one of the first things we did with TS was sit down as a management team and decide what processes were part of this Quality Management system, either as "customer oriented processes" or as Support or Mops. Okay, let's assume you then go about auditing all of these processes you have decided were part of the QMS. When you are done auditing all these processes, have you then in fact audited the "QMS to verify compliance with this Technical specification?"
Where I'm coming from is one of our other divisions was audited and they got dinged for not auditing every ELEMENT of the Standard. The auditor wanted to see a specific element by element checklist showing they'd covered all the bases. I thought about it and got to looking at all our processes and then the standard itself, and couldn't come up with any part of the standard that would not be covered by auditing one or several of our processes. Soooooo, if we audit all the processes we cover all the standard?
Before you attack, er I mean "add your constructive criticism,"
I know this wouldn't necessarily hold true everywhere, because it is dependent on what processes you determined were part of the QMS. But our processes list is pretty extensive. What do ya'll think?
(sorry)