SBS - The best value in QMS software

If I was to take on a new EMS.....

P

Phiobi

#1
#1
I'm a Quality manager of an aerospace company with ISO9001 and AS9100. We have wanted to get ISO14001 for a few years now and finally 2009 budget came out and I was able to higher an EMS manager.... long story short, we've not found one that we liked... The ball is now in my court as people are saying why don't I do it :agree1:

I'm now trying to put together a wish list for me to be able to do it...

Can anybody out there suggest the minimum training requirements recomended for somebody with a lot of quality experience but no environmental experience... I intend on taking on another quality engineer to take on soem of my existing work to carry out this function.

Also, would my new suggested title be Quality and Environmental Manager... or can one of you think up a great, funny and rediculous title to put forward??? (Gotta add some humour when you are about to increase your already massive work load :lol:)
 
Standard Work Instruction Software by Dozuki
Elsmar Forum Sponsor
SteelMaiden

SteelMaiden

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
#2
#2
Phiobi said:
I'm a Quality manager of an aerospace company with ISO9001 and AS9100. We have wanted to get ISO14001 for a few years now and finally 2009 budget came out and I was able to higher an EMS manager.... long story short, we've not found one that we liked... The ball is now in my court as people are saying why don't I do it :agree1:

I'm now trying to put together a wish list for me to be able to do it...

Can anybody out there suggest the minimum training requirements recomended for somebody with a lot of quality experience but no environmental experience... I intend on taking on another quality engineer to take on soem of my existing work to carry out this function.

Also, would my new suggested title be Quality and Environmental Manager... or can one of you think up a great, funny and rediculous title to put forward??? (Gotta add some humour when you are about to increase your already massive work load :lol:)
Click to expand...
Grand Poobah of Certification.

Training: Do you have Environmental Engineers currently? Implementation is fairly intuitive if you have already done quaity systems in the past. BUT, the whole regulatory/statutory side of things is a little different, and I found that most people just confused me with the aspects/impacts, targets and objectives, where I would have been OK if I would have just listened to my own judgement. There are implementation classes, I'd think about going to one, and maybe an auditing class later on (or delegate it, you are the Grand Poobah of Certification now.)
 
P

Phiobi

#3
#3
SteelMaiden said:
Grand Poobah of Certification.

Training: Do you have Environmental Engineers currently? Implementation is fairly intuitive if you have already done quaity systems in the past. BUT, the whole regulatory/statutory side of things is a little different, and I found that most people just confused me with the aspects/impacts, targets and objectives, where I would have been OK if I would have just listened to my own judgement. There are implementation classes, I'd think about going to one, and maybe an auditing class later on (or delegate it, you are the Grand Poobah of Certification now.)
Click to expand...
Grand Poobah of Certification I like this :lmao:

I am looking into doing a 1 day foundation course followed by a 2 day auditing course.

We do not have any environmental engineers but my plan is to swat up, train internal auditors (process owners checking each other) and maybe get a contractor in to help write the initial procedures for me to then maintain?!?
 
M

Migre

#4
#4
Hi Phiobi,

There are plenty of taster / introductory courses available within the UK. Certainly the main certification bodies run them (BSI, for example, offer a number of short EMS sessions) and I'm sure there are many more available. I'd advise sourcing and attending the most appropriate one for your needs before making a definite decision here. At least then you'll have significantly more background info to assist you when making such an important decision.

As for the job title - how about QUEEN?

Quality United with Environmental Extras Numpty

Ideal if you're a lady. However, may attract some odd looks when you hand out your business cards if you're a bloke...!
 
P

Phiobi

#5
#5
Migre said:
Hi Phiobi,

There are plenty of taster / introductory courses available within the UK. Certainly the main certification bodies run them (BSI, for example, offer a number of short EMS sessions) and I'm sure there are many more available. I'd advise sourcing and attending the most appropriate one for your needs before making a definite decision here. At least then you'll have significantly more background info to assist you when making such an important decision.

As for the job title - how about QUEEN?

Quality United with Environmental Extras Numpty

Ideal if you're a lady. However, may attract some odd looks when you hand out your business cards if you're a bloke...!
Click to expand...
I am looking into a few things on offer.

How about:

Person
Responsible for
Inspection
Non-conformances
Customer satisfaction and
Environmental Issues
P.R.I.N.C.E would look better on a business card I think:biglaugh:
 
P

Phiobi

#9
#9
As part of my build up to this if have started to read:
ISO 14001 Environmental Systems Handbook (Paperback)

by Ken Whitelaw

Anybody got any views on this or any other books that might be worth a read?
 
Randy

Randy

Super Moderator
#10
#10
It would be much better if you just used Annex "A" and maybe got a copy of ISO 14004:2004

Most of the books created by people that have had a revelation just regurgitate what's already been written with a bit of extra fluff
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
M Are you allowed to reuse the same asset number if the device was replaced? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 10
L Significant Production Run - How 300 was determined to be the minimum quantity APQP and PPAP 2
K OEM specific requirements - PPAP was rejected by STA Customer and Company Specific Requirements 5
K %GRR was between 10-30% so we have to have a "backup plan" per auditor IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 15
I When exactly was "competence" added to the ISO-9001 standard? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 9
I "On the job training" as a response to how someone was trained? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 75
T Was Just told we could ONLY buy material for AS9100 customers if the DISTRIBUTION house is AS9100 / AS9120 AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 3
U Own Procedure was not effectively implemented Problem Solving, Root Cause Fault and Failure Analysis 3
B How to reply NCR on ineffectiveness of corrective action during IATF external audit? This is repeated issue whereby some mistake was done. IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 7
R Major nonformance finding was given during a closing meeting of a ISO9001 certification audit General Auditing Discussions 76
M Case study - If the restaurant (ISO 9001:2015 certified) was run by 2 persons covering cooking and purchasing processes (Mother and Father) supported ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 7
Ed Panek ISOTECH TTI-10 found out of calibration - Calibration house was wrong? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 7
E Audited to ISO 13485 standard although customer was aware we're not and have no plans to be ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 23
H Claiming equivalence with the product that was sold earlier in the market but not now EU Medical Device Regulations 1
E Interesting Discussion Was this the fastest ever stage 2 ISO9001:2015 audit? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 76
M Products Manufactured while CE was valid CE Marking (Conformité Européene) / CB Scheme 1
S Corrections and Removals - Fiber Content in our textile products was incorrect Other US Medical Device Regulations 1
qualprod Risk closeout , mitigation was not effective, next? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 12
J AS9100D Clause Brain Fade - Tool was past due for Calibration AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 11
P Retired equipment that was never validated Qualification and Validation (including 21 CFR Part 11) 2
Jane's What steps do you take to terminate a product which was licensed for sale in Canada Canada Medical Device Regulations 14
Q Change revision number in document when only codification was changed Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 8
Marc Before the 760mph Hyperloop dream, there was the atmospheric railway Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 1
Ninja Getting eaten by Big Business - My company was bought by a huge multinational Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 54
M When was ISO started and Where? Other ISO and International Standards and European Regulations 3
R Why was Drip-Rate Infusion Pump removed from IEC 60601-2-24:2012? IEC 60601 - Medical Electrical Equipment Safety Standards Series 3
J Dinged on Internal Audits for supervising an auditor I was training Internal Auditing 10
Q 21CFR820 as it was in 1993 or 1997? 21 CFR Part 820 - US FDA Quality System Regulations (QSR) 1
R 5.4.1 Quality Objectives - Nonconformity: The process was not fully effective ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 36
C CB Accreditaton - CB that was accredited by IAS Registrars and Notified Bodies 5
GStough Rx-360 - Has Anyone Used This and What Was Your Experience? Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 3
R IEC 62304 was brought up during an FDA Inspection/Audit IEC 62304 - Medical Device Software Life Cycle Processes 6
M I was wondering what happened to them (Joke) Funny Stuff - Jokes and Humour 5
U Major Nonconformance - We had a control in place that was not on the control plan IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 14
J What are the changes in CMDR that was revised in Dec 2013? Canada Medical Device Regulations 2
W The 2nd printing of the AWS D17.1 2010 which was 2011 - Page missing? Various Other Specifications, Standards, and related Requirements 3
T Suppose Aristotle was holding a conference Brain Teasers and Puzzles 10
P ISO 15197:2013 (Blood glucose monitoring system) was released in May Other US Medical Device Regulations 10
B Was EN 980:2008 superseded by EN 15223-1:2012 on January 31, 2013 CE Marking (Conformité Européene) / CB Scheme 2
Q Reduced Device License Fee was rejected for being sent in too early Canada Medical Device Regulations 2
M AS9100A (old revision) - Required C=0 sampling plans if sampling was used? AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 4
S The days before International Standards - Has ISO done what it was supposed to? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 7
R Internal Auditing Checklist - Major NCR because the Checklist was not Completed Internal Auditing 17
Richard Regalado ISO 22301 was published 2012 May 15 - New Standard for BCM - Published! Business Continuity & Resiliency Planning (BCRP) 2
Q I was assigned as Kaizen Leader for our MRB Area - Your advice appreciated Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis 5
R New to MSA - I was told to use ANOVA for the GRR's Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 2
S Multiple Prints Sent by Customer Over Time as Design was Developed ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 5
V Can't PPAP to Customer because a Supplier was Re-Sourced APQP and PPAP 2
B Which type of DOE was likely used for this transfer function? Six Sigma 4
Wes Bucey One of his habits was to call the World Series the "World Serious" Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 24

Similar threads

Top Bottom