Implementing APQP - Starting a fresh....

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bettsaj

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Just started a new job in a Quality Management role. I've been assessing their systems etc, and obviously talking to a lot of people and so far the most glaring issue seems to be APQP.... or lack of it.

Most people on the shop floor are complaining that there appears to be a high quantity of jobs that hit the shop floor where there are issues with material being quoted wrong on the job card to what's quoted on the drawing... Bush sizes etc being quoted wrong etc...

When i had the interview for the job I was asked about how i'd handle the inconsistances they are currently experiencing due to lack of planning at quoting and pre-production stage.... I obviously started quoting APQP... The MD hadn't even heard of APQP let aone used it in a production situation.

I've now hit a road i've never been on before....... How do I start to integrate APQP into a company that's never ran with it?
 
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qusys

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Re: Starting a fresh....

Hi,
how are you?
Welcome on this forum.

Is this company certified vs ISO TS?
Are there any specific requirement from your customers to use APQP according to AIAG blue book guidelines.
Clause 7.1 of ISO 9001 implies that the organization follows a method to manage a project for the introduction of new product.
APQP is well recognized in the automotive sector being a sort of project mgmt approach.
It seems very strange this lacking point in the company, 7.1 is a pillar of ISO.
My advice is to have more news and information about what it the current method that the organization uses to plan the product realization, checks the records as per the ISO clauses and undestand the relation with the current customers, looking at eventual RMA.
Pls, let us know more details and good luck!:bigwave:
 
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bettsaj

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Re: Starting a fresh....

Thanks for your reply. I'm only on day 4 of my new job so am still learning all about how they run.
They're currently ISO9001:2008, and seeing as they're not an automotive supplier they don't require ISO TS. They supply the rail, and construction industry (JCB for example).

I'll gleen as much info as possible over the next week or so and post back... They have an ISO audit on 19th by BSI, so currently I'm ensuring all that has been covered, and that issues regarding internal audits are up to date.

Once the BSI audit is out of the way I'll be able to get into this more deeply.
 

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Re: Starting a fresh....

Thanks for your reply. I'm only on day 4 of my new job so am still learning all about how they run.
They're currently ISO9001:2008, and seeing as they're not an automotive supplier they don't require ISO TS. They supply the rail, and construction industry (JCB for example).

I'll gleen as much info as possible over the next week or so and post back... They have an ISO audit on 19th by BSI, so currently I'm ensuring all that has been covered, and that issues regarding internal audits are up to date.

Once the BSI audit is out of the way I'll be able to get into this more deeply.
Good luck Bettsaj.
Is this a surveillance audit by your registrar? Take into account that 7.1 and 7.3 will be deeply checked in this registrar audit.
Check if the organization has the process in place making you helped by personnel competent, I mean process owner, otherwise there could be some problems during the audit:bigwave:
 
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bettsaj

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It's a surveillance audit, and the schedule for the audit is as follows:

  • Production Control / Planning
  • Manufacturing Processes
  • Training & Developement
  • QMS System & Organisational Changes
  • Internal Audits
  • Improvement Actions
  • Management Review
 

qusys

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It's a surveillance audit, and the schedule for the audit is as follows:

  • Production Control / Planning
  • Manufacturing Processes
  • Training & Developement
  • QMS System & Organisational Changes
  • Internal Audits
  • Improvement Actions
  • Management Review
The auditor will touch the planning of the product realization as per bullet 1, asking for the process in place and related evidences.:bigwave:
 
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