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Implementing ISO 9001 and ISO 17025 separately or together

spacey

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Currently in the first year of auditing our ISO9001 QMS for which a Certification Body will come for our first visit in Summer this year which is all good so far.

However it has also been suggested if we can possibly look to achieve ISO 17025 status in the future (again within a year)

After reading through the ISO 17025 and the similarities to ISO 9001, I am not sure if I should create a new QMS based just for the lab and its testing work in ISO 17025 or integrate the ISO 17025 + 9001 into one IMS (before the audit)

What would you do or what have others done in the past

Please note the CB which is coming to for our first assessment for 9001 cannot supply accreditation for ISO 17025.

Thanks in advance for any answers
 
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Currently in the first year of auditing our ISO9001 QMS for which a Certification Body will come for our first visit in Summer this year which is all good so far.

However it has also been suggested if we can possibly look to achieve ISO 17025 status in the future (again within a year)

After reading through the ISO 17025 and the similarities to ISO 9001, I am not sure if I should create a new QMS based just for the lab and its testing work in ISO 17025 or integrate the ISO 17025 + 9001 into one IMS (before the audit)

What would you do or what have others done in the past

Please note the CB which is coming to for our first assessment for 9001 cannot supply accreditation for ISO 17025.

Thanks in advance for any answers
You should evaluate costs vs benefits for ISO 17025 accreditation pursuing based upon your business.
Need more details related to the organization to undestand whether testing and calibration service is the primary function, otherwise if you have only internal labs that support your primary business you should assess the advantages to reach the accreditation.
 

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Currently in the first year of auditing our ISO9001 QMS for which a Certification Body will come for our first visit in Summer this year which is all good so far.

However it has also been suggested if we can possibly look to achieve ISO 17025 status in the future (again within a year)

After reading through the ISO 17025 and the similarities to ISO 9001, I am not sure if I should create a new QMS based just for the lab and its testing work in ISO 17025 or integrate the ISO 17025 + 9001 into one IMS (before the audit)

What would you do or what have others done in the past

Please note the CB which is coming to for our first assessment for 9001 cannot supply accreditation for ISO 17025.

Thanks in advance for any answers
I would focus at one thing at the time: ISO 9001 first. ISO 17025 later.

(unless you have a real business case to move 17025 ahead).
 

spacey

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Hello Guys,

Thanks for the replies

I will continue to work on the ISO9001 and aim to intergrate ISO 17025 at a later stage depending on our other requirements
 

spacey

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Hello,

Quick update, following our recent Stage 2 assessment for ISO 9001 we have been recommended for certification

Now I have been asked to start work on ISO 17025 for our in house lab.

Already have a copy of the standard, Don't want to implement this into ISO 9001 but can anyone recommend any good books on ISO 17025?

Thanks
 
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