In the ISO 9001:2008 company, can give reference to sister company also.

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Jignesh Bhanderi

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Hello

We have two manufacturing units , one unit have ISO 9001:2008 (Like - Unit_A) and another doesn't have (Like Unit_B). now we make procedure and work instruction for the welding operation & welders are certified on the name of for the first unit, (Unit_A) ISO certified . now i want to give referance of the same procedure, work instruction and will use same certified welders to the another unit (Unit_B). so, what i have to do for the same.

Jignesh B
 
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Re: In the ISO 9001:2008 company, can give referance to sister company also.

Hello Jignesh... Welcome to the COVE...
welders are certified on the name of for the first unit, (Unit_A) ISO certified
What do you mean by this ?
Is it that the welders are certified externally, and a certificate issued to them mention Unit_A name on it ?
OR
The Unit_A qualifies them internally based on the method adopted ?
Welding can be a very critical job and there are certain statutory requirements of welder qualification for certain types of welding jobs.
If such does not apply to you, then as long as the welder qualification of Unit_A and Unit _B are same (You say sister company) all that matters is competency of welding.
 
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Jignesh Bhanderi

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Re: In the ISO 9001:2008 company, can give referance to sister company also.

Hello Jignesh... Welcome to the COVE...

What do you mean by this ?
Is it that the welders are certified externally, and a certificate issued to them mention Unit_A name on it ?
OR
The Unit_A qualifies them internally based on the method adopted ?
Welding can be a very critical job and there are certain statutory requirements of welder qualification for certain types of welding jobs.
If such does not apply to you, then as long as the welder qualification of Unit_A and Unit _B are same (You say sister company) all that matters is competency of welding.
Hello Mr. Somashekar BV,

Yes, welders are certified by an external agency (TUV) - As per welding standards - on Unit_A

AND

In the sister company (Unit_B) we are planning to certified welders by another external body (BVIS) , but we wnat to use same procedure as of Unit_A

Means

we want to use common procedure in both Unit_A & Unit_B.
so is there any internal memo acceptable during certification on Unit_B.
 

somashekar

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Re: In the ISO 9001:2008 company, can give referance to sister company also.

Hello Mr. Somashekar BV,

Yes, welders are certified by an external agency (TUV) - As per welding standards - on Unit_A

AND

In the sister company (Unit_B) we are planning to certified welders by another external body (BVIS) , but we wnat to use same procedure as of Unit_A

Means

we want to use common procedure in both Unit_A & Unit_B.
so is there any internal memo acceptable during certification on Unit_B.
Why do you need a memo.
You are just sharing knowledge between sister companies
It is not needed that the procedure have a Unit_A / Unit_B name in them.
These are two procedures of two companies and controlled by each company respectively.
 
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Jignesh Bhanderi

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Re: In the ISO 9001:2008 company, can give referance to sister company also.

Hello Somashekar BV,

ok, thanks a lot

Jignesh Bhanderi
 
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sitapaty

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Re: In the ISO 9001:2008 company, can give referance to sister company also.

Using an employee of a sister company is OK.But do you put them under free labour? You have to mention this in your apex manual stating the arrangement as authorized and official.
 
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