Integrating ISO 14001 & 9001 into OHSAS 18001

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Haneen

#41
Maybe so, but I've always found it best to not run ones mouth about something one does not have personal experience with while trying to proclaim oneself as an expert, and auditors ought to have some competency in the areas they audit (which was the point of the previously suuplied post)
Yes, 100% agreed Randy
 
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pkbodine

#42
Dear Megaw,
I would like to see your integrated manual and procedures, if you are still willing to share them. I too am working on integrating management systems (ISO/RC14001, OHSAS 18001 and ISO9001) at several sites. The key procedures (doc control, auditing, etc) are fairly straight forward, but I would like to see how you did this at a policy/manual level of documentation.

Thank you in advance!
Paula
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#43
Dear Megaw,
I would like to see your integrated manual and procedures, if you are still willing to share them. I too am working on integrating management systems (ISO/RC14001, OHSAS 18001 and ISO9001) at several sites. The key procedures (doc control, auditing, etc) are fairly straight forward, but I would like to see how you did this at a policy/manual level of documentation.

Thank you in advance!
Paula
While I don't have any samples to share, the writing for the basic administrative or support processes is no different whether you write it for quality only, or add environmental or even safety.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#45
please share if possible
As I mentioned, I don't have any ready examples available to share. However, the wording is no different than your existing quality procedures. Just add the term environmental as appropriate.

For example: "This doc control procedure applies to all documents and records related to our quality system."

In an integrated system it would read: "This doc control procedure applies to all documents and records related to our quality and environmental system." You could also add Health & Safety in the same way.
 

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#46
As I mentioned, I don't have any ready examples available to share. However, the wording is no different than your existing quality procedures. Just add the term environmental as appropriate.

For example: "This doc control procedure applies to all documents and records related to our quality system."

In an integrated system it would read: "This doc control procedure applies to all documents and records related to our quality and environmental system." You could also add Health & Safety in the same way.
It's better and more convenient to refer to an integrated management system as "business system."

Stijloor.
 
H

Haneen

#48
It's better and more convenient to refer to an integrated management system as "business system."

Stijloor.
I do agree also, because the quality umbrella is able to cover all possible management systems, I mean one can talk about the quality of HR, marketing, sales, HSE & the quality of any other management system.

There is the PAS 99 which gives a framework for the integration but i think it does give only the frame not the details. It leaves the details for the creativity of us in relation to the different environments within which every one of us is working.

Regards
 
T

Truppenzwei

#49
Mark

After successfuly implementing integrated systems in a company I work for at two different sites, this being 9001, 14001 and 18001, there were more positives than negatives. The education of the workforce and management comitment were a challenge. The hardest part was integrating the audits for compliance. We moved away from the old method of auditing sections and used a fully integrated team to carry out the audits. They were all trained under the basic audit process, and then combined as a team of 3-4 to look to look at all areas when carrying out the audit. This prooved very fruitful and the audit team enjoyed this process. External verification was also better for us with no Major NC's a few Minors, overall geat improvement. The Inetgrated manual was also easier to understand, with emphasis on Safety, Environment and Quality, if you need examples let me know I can share the system and procedures.
Hi Megaw,

I would be interested in seeing the examples as well if that is possible.

Regards
T.
 
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longnhanvo

#50
It may be safe to say that I have some small experience in the area.

Downside? Primarily de-ephasizing the importance of one for the other...focusing more on one system than the other systems.

The expectation is for a transparent "business management" process managing quality,OH&S and environmental "risk" and improvement of total systems performance.
Dear Mr.Randy,
Could you let us know what benefit the integratiing ISO 14001& 9001, OHSAS 18001 bring to bussiness?
 
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