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grzegorz76

#12
I started in January this year work as a Quality Technician ( i worked as quality technician before with main focus on quality inspection, not quality management processes), so my new job a "little" challenge for me but i am up for it as my employer who have a faith in me that i will learn new things fast and easy. i never attended a any training regarding Internal Auditing :(. one of my new duties is to prepare company to achieve new as9100 rev c standard so i need to improve their quality management system where needed and i need to focus on internal auditing as they got few negative during last assessment report.
both files i attached to this thread where prepared by the person who retired almost 2 years ago.
i hope my answer and description of the situation will help all of you to help me

Thank you very much in advance
 

Marc

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#13
<snip> let me know if the audit is really "connected" with the procedure? <snip>
Compare it to your procedure. The report you uploaded should be based upon the procedure.

EDIT ADD: Now that I see you have attached the procedure, I didn't actually compare the two, but I did take a quick look at both. They look relatively "standard".
 
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lk2012

#14
hi Greg,
that's a massive task you've got in front of you.
You've got some good basis to build upon: by coming from the everyday Quality area, you have a really good idea what's going on in your production and probably have a good relationship with the production team (which is a huge asset, belive you me).

There's one thing I'd suggest to do asap: get trained. It takes 4 days and it will be a piece of cake because you already know the things they're talking about. It will give you a good insight into the auditing process and into the mindset of an Auditor.
AS9100 is a very strict standard, it's far more complex than TS16949 so I'd start with TS (or better get AS depending on how much your company has budgeted).

Next thing, look at your processes.
Identify the main areas (for example: incoming goods, production - this can be split into areas like stamping, plating, welding..., design & development, purchasing, resources - that's your HR & IT, Quality, test, logistics / shipping...). Then read through the AS standard very carefully and identify which parts of the standard belong to which area (some clauses will apply to more than 1 area).

Next, draw the internal audit plan.
Have you got any other Auditors on site? Make use of them.
If it's just you, then spread the audits so that you're not rushing yourself all the time.

Anything else, please shout. I'm happy to help.
 

Marc

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#15
If you can not attend a training course, I'm sure if you hang around here, ask questions, read through threads and look at some of the related file attachments you'll learn what you need to for the most part.
 

John Broomfield

Staff member
Super Moderator
#16
Please find attached internal audit report that is (was) in use. I would like to know your opinion about it. please advice me what content i should remove or keep.
grzegorz76,

I take it that NCR means nonconformity report, right? Why then imply to your colleagues that an audit report is an NCR?

It also suggests that audit is a fishing expedition with no objective in mind except perhaps to find nonconformity.

As your IAR Form is meant to be a template for reporting the results of internal audit, I recommend that you remove all the stuff that came from your Certification Body (CB) such as:

  1. Company Name (the second time it is called for!)
  2. Position (your position is Auditor - so this is redundant)
  3. Business Split (CB speak)
  4. Personnel Numbers (CB concern)
  5. Shift Pattern (CB concern)
  6. Accept (as auditor you have no authority to accept)
  7. Observation (outmoded term - replaced by Finding)
  8. Minor (no need to rate nonconformity)
  9. Major (no need to rate nonconformity)
  10. Satisfactory (Conforms seems less opinionated)
  11. Major Nonconformity (no need to rate nonconformity)
  12. Minor Nonconformity (no need to rate nonconformity)
  13. Observation (outmoded term - replaced by Finding)
  14. Root Cause of Problem*
  15. Corrective Action Taken*
*these two items belong in your Corrective Action Request form (under the Nonconformity Statement) that is available for use by those who are monitoring your processes per 8.2.3

I would separate this all-purpose confusing mess of a form into three single-page forms called:

  • Audit Checklist
  • Corrective Action Request
  • Audit Report (per post 2 above)
Your instincts to change all this are right on the mark.

Keep up the good work,

John
 

John Broomfield

Staff member
Super Moderator
#17
...and by reporting facts from the audit as Findings you should also report the positive facts where others can learn and feel good about themselves.

If you don't mind me saying, your current form gives off a negative odor and probably deepens the fear of audit.

John
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#18
Hello,

Please can someone send me a template for few internal audits that are required to be performed within the company to comply with iso9001:2008 requirements/ i mean the company i am working for have this certificate but i need to take over from a person who made some mess within internal audits, for not performing them or doing them wrong. Can someone help me with some templates regarding abovoe topic? I am new to the company and i am on the way to learn new things but i do struggle a bit at the moment with setting up internal audit the proper way.
thank you
Greg, United Kingdom
I have a white paper I wrote on internal auditing, that may help you. You can access a free copy at www.Jilling.com .... click on Tools tab, Internal Audit White Paper.
 
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JaneB

#19
...and by reporting facts from the audit as Findings you should also report the positive facts where others can learn and feel good about themselves.

If you don't mind me saying, your current form gives off a negative odor and probably deepens the fear of audit.

John
Agree with you John. Heavy focus on what's wrong, mistakes and faults, with little else apparently.
 
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grzegorz76

#20
Good morning all,

Thank you for all your advises. Please answer one more question for me.
Is the form for a Internal Audit Report attached to this post good enough so i can work on it?

Thank you in advance
 

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