Internal Audit Training - An Internal Audit Training Map

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Audit training again

We are about to do some audit training. As I intend to have a look at ISO 19011, I mapped it, and now I can think of no reason not to post it right here.

Maybe it's about time we had another audit training discussion? Over to the Cove dwellers...

/Claes
 

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Audit training map overview

Very well done Claes, an excellent presentation.

How does this communication format go down with the recipients of such mapped information?
Wallace.
 
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Thank's Wallace,

The normal reaction (among those not used to this format) is something like:

1. Whups! What's this then? Looks complicated... :eek:
2. Aha. So I should start from the middle? Oh, allright.... :rolleyes:
3. Hey... it's not so complicated after all. Neat... :D

/Claes
 

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The Normal Reaction

Sounds like with flow charts and such. When you come across someone who hasn't seen one before it's - well, different. But the intrinsic pattern of the map makes it relatively easy to understand without a lot of explaining.
 
#5
Yes, people grasp it much in the same way as they would grasp a flowchart. It's essentially the same thing, after all. Other benefits are:
  • The map contains and conveys so much more info than ordinary text
  • It's clearly a lot easier to remember than text. Particularly if you start adding pictures.
  • It's a lot easier to spot as well as correct errors in a map than in ordinary text

/Claes
 

Marc

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#6
Do you see this as valid for both internal auditor training as well as 2nd and 3rd party auditing?
 
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Marc said:
Do you see this as valid for both internal auditor training as well as 2nd and 3rd party auditing?
Hey... I had forgotten about this one :) . Well basically this is nothing but a rehash of ISO19011 with the intention of getting a better overall picture. So is 19011 valid for internal audits?

IMO: It is mostly valid but a bit of overkill as internal audits are concerned. It does provide a systematic approach to auditing. My intention was to get a discussion going among the internal auditors. It worked....

/Claes
 

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Re: Audit training again

Great mapping, Claes.

One comment, though: how about the new edition of the standard, 19011:2011?
It has some new annexes worth noticing !!! :)
 
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ssz102

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Re: Audit training again

this thinking are very beautiful

only need to enough system professional knowedge for the trainer
 
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