Internal Audit Yield %'s (Poll included)

What % yield would cause you to greatly reduce the amount of internal auditing you do

  • Never reduce the amount of auditing because you can never stop finding improvement ideas

    Votes: 2 100.0%
  • Don't cut back on auditing untill were at 100%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cut back auditing if our yield is above 99%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cut back auditing if our yield is above 98%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cut back Auditing if our Yield is above 97%

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    2
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TheKaiz

#1
What % yield (Possible Findings v Findings)would cause you to greatly reduce the amount of internal auditing you do?
I appologize I would have liked to make this a Poll, but I could not figure out how to create one, so I'll just pose it as a question here. :confused:


1. Never reduce the amount of auditing because you can never stop finding improvement ideas.

2. Don't cut back on auditing untill were at 100%

3.. Cut back auditing if our yield is above 99%

4. Cut back auditing if our yield is above 98%

5. Cut back Auditing if our Yield is above 97%
 
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Duke Okes

#2
Re: Audit Yield %'s

In order for this question to be answered adequately you would have to define what you mean by "yield" ... e.g., how do you measure it? Examples?
 

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Re: Audit Yield %'s

What % yield would cause you to greatly reduce the amount of internal auditing you do?
I appologize I would have liked to make this a Poll, but I could not figure out how to create one, so I'll just pose it as a question here. :confused:


1. Never reduce the amount of auditing because you can never stop finding improvement ideas.

2. Don't cut back on auditing untill were at 100%

3.. Cut back auditing if our yield is above 99%

4. Cut back auditing if our yield is above 98%

5. Cut back Auditing if our Yield is above 97%
I have started a poll for you.
 
#5
What % yield would cause you to greatly reduce the amount of internal auditing you do?
I appologize I would have liked to make this a Poll, but I could not figure out how to create one, so I'll just pose it as a question here. :confused:


1. Never reduce the amount of auditing because you can never stop finding improvement ideas.

2. Don't cut back on auditing untill were at 100%

3.. Cut back auditing if our yield is above 99%

4. Cut back auditing if our yield is above 98%

5. Cut back Auditing if our Yield is above 97%

By these categories you appear to be implying (well, to me anyways) that it's only to do with the number of findings from an audit - or even when a process is performing well that you should change the schedule etc.

There are other good reasons to schedule audits..........as Duke says, what's the yield you are talking of?
 
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TheKaiz

#6
Re: Audit Yield %'s

In order for this question to be answered adequately you would have to define what you mean by "yield" ... e.g., how do you measure it? Examples?

I seem to always miss something. Let me explain. My internal auditors are given a simple yes or no check sheet that we use periodically just to check conformance. The yeild that I refer to is how many incorrect answers v correct answers are noted with this sampling.
 
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TheKaiz

#7
It seem to me that it is about what you are auditing, not how much you are auditing.

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Ralph

In full circle I use this Yeild % to determine later focus on what to audit. Results are recorded by Standard section on a pareto. Would you care to guess what is always number 1. :tg::tg::tg:
 
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Duke Okes

#8
In full circle I use this Yeild % to determine later focus on what to audit. Results are recorded by Standard section on a pareto. Would you care to guess what is always number 1. :tg::tg::tg:
Thanks for the clarity. However, rather than just a count/frequency I believe criticality should also be considered.

And just to guess ... document control?
 
#9
Re: Audit Yield %'s

I seem to always miss something. Let me explain. My internal auditors are given a simple yes or no check sheet that we use periodically just to check conformance. The yeild that I refer to is how many incorrect answers v correct answers are noted with this sampling.
Why would you expend audit resources doing this?

If you are running an audit program based on this, I'd suggest that there are bigger fish to fry and (FWIW) things your auditors would rather be doing.......Especially since it appears (I'm guessing) that the highest score is on 'document control' which management don't care about and can't see the relevance of.
Audits should be focused on the effectivess of the process and, if done properly, compliance takes care of itself during the audit.
 
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TheKaiz

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Re: Audit Yield %'s

Why would you expend audit resources doing this?

If you are running an audit program based on this, I'd suggest that there are bigger fish to fry and (FWIW) things your auditors would rather be doing.......Especially since it appears (I'm guessing) that the highest score is on 'document control' which management don't care about and can't see the relevance of.
Audits should be focused on the effectivess of the process and, if done properly, compliance takes care of itself during the audit.
This is what I use to find the "Big Fish". Do you have any suggestions on how to find the big fish? IMHO this was a good way to find them. I didn't say this was the only auditing being performed. The main question was if my samples show me that I am 99% effective then I shouldnt' be doing any conformance auditing. But, if you don't do conformance audits how do you know what your big fish are? (felt the need to reiterate sorry)



BTW document control is the winner. (this is no secret) :)
 
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