This from a listserve. Orwell was off by a couple of years. By the way, Charlie is typically somewhat grouchy... If they go to this length you will *definitely* come out cheaper by outsourcing your internal audits.
Here goes:
-> From: CHARLEY SCALIES Subject: Re:Internal Auditing/Scalies
->
-> Let's see if I can't stir the caludron a little. There
-> has been discussion concerning the scope of internal
-> audits (limited to ISO9000 or otherwise), and also
-> questions about just how much an internal auditor needs
-> to know about ISO9000. I say, there is no such thing as
-> an "Internal ISO9000 Audit", except that which you do
-> when you first verify your system against ISO9000 or one
-> of its revisions. Thereafter, they are all "Quality
-> System Audits". The RAB is proposing to "certify"
-> internal auditors and internal auditor training courses.
-> (Another racket: and not tennis, folks.) They propose,
-> among other silliness, that the "certified courses" spend
-> a great deal of time teaching the ISO9000 standards. Just
-> what the wprld needs more deftless, inbred auditors. Wake
-> up, McFly!. Internal audits are not the same as
-> registration audits. Their focus is different, They do
-> things for different reasons. They just happen to use
-> many of the same techniques. If the RAB ever learns that
-> lesson, they can apply to me for certification and
-> accreditation. Boy! What did I have for breakfast today
-> that made me so grouchy?
->
-> Charley...
Here goes:
-> From: CHARLEY SCALIES Subject: Re:Internal Auditing/Scalies
->
-> Let's see if I can't stir the caludron a little. There
-> has been discussion concerning the scope of internal
-> audits (limited to ISO9000 or otherwise), and also
-> questions about just how much an internal auditor needs
-> to know about ISO9000. I say, there is no such thing as
-> an "Internal ISO9000 Audit", except that which you do
-> when you first verify your system against ISO9000 or one
-> of its revisions. Thereafter, they are all "Quality
-> System Audits". The RAB is proposing to "certify"
-> internal auditors and internal auditor training courses.
-> (Another racket: and not tennis, folks.) They propose,
-> among other silliness, that the "certified courses" spend
-> a great deal of time teaching the ISO9000 standards. Just
-> what the wprld needs more deftless, inbred auditors. Wake
-> up, McFly!. Internal audits are not the same as
-> registration audits. Their focus is different, They do
-> things for different reasons. They just happen to use
-> many of the same techniques. If the RAB ever learns that
-> lesson, they can apply to me for certification and
-> accreditation. Boy! What did I have for breakfast today
-> that made me so grouchy?
->
-> Charley...