Internal Auditor Competence for Automotive CSR's

batteryguy

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We just received the schedule for our upcoming IATF audit at the end of February. Under the internal audit section of our audit one of the notes is related to "Auditor competence for customer specific requirements". Does anyone have examples of how they show evidence of this to an auditor? All of our internal auditors have evidence of competence for their audit training, auditing abilities, core tools, etc., but nothing related to our specific CSR's.
 

Jim Wynne

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What does "Under the internal audit section of our audit one of the notes is related to "Auditor competence for customer specific requirements" mean?
 

batteryguy

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What does "Under the internal audit section of our audit one of the notes is related to "Auditor competence for customer specific requirements" mean?
Jim, the external auditor has 1.5 hours set aside to review our internal audit process. In the notes for this section of the audit one of the items she has listed is "Auditor competence for CSR's".
 

Sidney Vianna

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Assuming the internal auditors have been able to demonstrate competence for auditing (in general), you need to demonstrate how they (the internal auditors) are aware of CSR's, especially when such requirements are released and updated, what do they do if CSR requirements are not clear, how they determine applicability and seek evidence of conformance to such CSR's.

It is quite obvious that the IATF has made such issue a "focus area" for CB auditors to assess during their 16949 audits.
 

Howard Atkins

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The standard states
a) understanding of the automotive process approach for auditing, including risk-based
thinking;
b) understanding of applicable customer-specific requirements;
c) understanding of applicable ISO 9001 and IATF 16949 requirements related to the scope of
the audit;
d) understanding of applicable core tool requirements related to the scope of the audit;
e) understanding how to plan, conduct, report, and close out audit findings.


You show b exactly in the same way as you would show a,c,d and e
 

MEXPZN

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The standard states
a) understanding of the automotive process approach for auditing, including risk-based
thinking;
b) understanding of applicable customer-specific requirements;
c) understanding of applicable ISO 9001 and IATF 16949 requirements related to the scope of
the audit;
d) understanding of applicable core tool requirements related to the scope of the audit;
e) understanding how to plan, conduct, report, and close out audit findings.


You show b exactly in the same way as you would show a,c,d and e
I Had that covered, with a check list to do a regular follow up of customer´s supplier manuals + an internal workshop, and, since our internal Auditors participate during APQP revisions including feasibility, we had those CSR´s identified and "checked" as evaluated by the team at different stages. Competence can be acquired by different means (like reading specific topic articles, workshops or manuals).
 

malasuerte

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We just received the schedule for our upcoming IATF audit at the end of February. Under the internal audit section of our audit one of the notes is related to "Auditor competence for customer specific requirements". Does anyone have examples of how they show evidence of this to an auditor? All of our internal auditors have evidence of competence for their audit training, auditing abilities, core tools, etc., but nothing related to our specific CSR's.

Demonstrate (through some method) that your auditors know 1) What CSRs are 2) Where they are found 3) What the CSR means and 4) That the CSRs have been audited.
 
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