Internal Audits - Auditing own work in a small shop

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im871345

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8.2.2 Auditors SHALL not audit their own work.

What do you do if the company is literally a one man operation? Everything from book, build, to bill is all done by one person.

Any help or insight that can be provided is greatly appreciated.
 
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You're an ISO 9000 compliant business???

or maybe we're missing some vital information? Is this the reason you're doing audits?

You could find a local resource, like a member of the local ASQ chapter - they are very often looking for auditing experience (at low/no cost) but be careful about who you select (just like any 'supplier').......

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Jeckyl and Hyde

im871345 said:
What do you do if the company is literally a one man operation? Everything from book, build, to bill is all done by one person.
You can either outsource it or develop "multiple personalities" .:lol:
 
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im871345

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ISO 9000 I wish! try AS9100. Before, all that was required; was to be compliant. The Customers auditors looked at quality of goods, on time delivery, price and QMS. In that order! Now they require full 3rd party certification.
thanks for your time
 
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im871345

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After considering the "develop mutiple personalities" suggestion, I decided that would make it very difficult to claim exemption from 7.3 Design and Developement :lol:
thanks for your time
 
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ralphsulser

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im871345 said:
After considering the "develop mutiple personalities" suggestion, I decided that would make it very difficult to claim exemption from 7.3 Design and Developement :lol:
thanks for your time
Do you have a wife, they always want to snoop around in your business anyway:lol:
 
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im871345 said:
What do you do if the company is literally a one man operation?
Would it be possible to swap favours with some other company in the neighbourhood? Perhaps you could audit them and they audit you? If there are many small businesses in the area you may even be able to create an auditor pool...

/Claes
 
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How would you Audit a 1 person operation?

Obviously internal communication isn't a problem.
What about management review?
Internal CAR's

Others??
 
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TNHunter

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Nonsense of it all

Let me get this straight. A one man operation is required to conduct audits against its' quality system, but wait, he cannot conduct the audit because he will be auditing himself.

Answer: Hire (contract) someone outside the organization to conduct the audit. May sure they are on your approved vendor list. Oh and by the way, has you investigated their quality system to see if they are in compliance?

Fellows, the state of quality is sadly getting to the point where the standards are driving the business and leading to companies having to spend money NEEDLESSLY to meet requirements. COMMON SENSE needs to be applied here.

I say, conduct the audit yourself, if the outside auditor writes a non-conformance, no fault it by stating you are a one man operation. If that does not satisfy them, then THEY have no common sense and have no real understanding of the REAL business world. There has to be flexibility in the quality standard world.

Just my .02 cents.
 
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