Internal audits for IATF

Littlemiss

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I am not sure if I have my internal audit system set up to meet the IATF standard requirements. Would like some feedback from anyone that has been audited by one of the IATF auditors.

Quality management system audit - checklist created by quality focusing on ensuring we are covering compliance with the Automotive standard.

Manufacturing Process audit - use turtle diagram to audit effectiveness, efficiency

Product audit - follow control plan

I feel like I can use the checklist during the audit for (quality) and then fill in the information from the audit on a Turtle to show the quality and manufacturing audits are completed together by process.
 
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Funboi

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OK, let me put it this way: The criteria of what an IATF auditor accepts is the wrong one to use.
Internal audits should be performed on the processes of the organization to see if they are effectively implemented, compared to the QMS documentation created.
Manufacturing process audits usually focus on the effectiveness of the Control Plan (hence the FMEA etc)
Product audits can be done - checking the product to the spec. - at any point in the process.
 

Littlemiss

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I have taken a look at my previous post and what I have.
I will use the questions along with standard as a guide for the auditors and have them document the audits for QMS audits on the turtles this will allow us to look at the process, documentation, performance of the process and effectiveness.
Manufacturing process audits- I will schedule audits on our processes using the control plans/pfmea.
Product audit will be audit of print, customer specifications.
 

Funboi

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I will use the questions along with standard as a guide for the auditors and have them document the audits for QMS audits
Do you mean your auditors will study your QMS process documentation? I’m not sure what you mean when you post “I will use the questions”. Don’t your auditors know what to ask?
 
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Littlemiss

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Do you mean your auditors will study your QMS process documentation? I’m not sure what you mean when you post “I will use the questions”. Don’t your auditors know what to ask?
They are new auditors several have never audited before so I had made up some questions to assist them. They fill in the turtle diagram while auditing the process and process documentation for the QMS audits.
 

Funboi

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They are new auditors several have never audited before so I had made up some questions to assist them.
I’d suggest not doing that, but instead sit down with them and ask them to tell you what they understand the QMS tells them should be observable and what questions they will ask. Having an auditor and telling them what to ask is like getting a dog and barking youself
 
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