Interpretation for supplier development clause 7.4.1.2?

[Donald Duck]

Lots of arguements regarding clause 7.4.1.2, here is the interpretation from IAOB:

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IATF guidance includes wording "a process to achieve the above" - meaning you could accept a plan to achieve the requirement - and as far as maximum timing of that plan - our view is that it should be achievable during the three year life of the certificate. Surveillance visits shall monitor achievement of the plan.

That means as TS certified organization, you can still purchase form some companies without any QMS certification, but you should:

1. Confirm they are compliance with ISO 9001:2000 (supplier audit?)
2. Proof that your supplier is working towards to ISO 9001:2000 certification
3. Your supplier shall be certified in 3 years or your TS recertified.
4. Proof that your supplier is compliance with TS 16949.

Note: Only for manufacturing suppliers, you dont need to ask Wal-Mart to be certified.

 

[Marc]

Any specific reason for the 3 years in your interpretation other than that it is the duration of your certificate??

 

[Howard Atkins]

Any specific reason for the 3 years in your interpretation other than that it is the duration of your certificate??

The 3 years come from here. (broken link removed)

Supplier development was written purposely that way, with the provision that "unless otherwise agreed with the customer" - meaning - if not possible to do, get customer approval of a different approach. "Customer" in this context is defined in the guidance supplement as the "affected" customers. Also, guidance includes wording "a process to achieve the above" - meaning you could accept a plan to achieve the requirement - and as far as maximum timing of that plan - our view is that it should be achievable during the three year life of the certificate. Surveillance visits shall monitor achievement of the plan.

This is further interpretation of a previous question and the guidelines that are published seperatley.
We have discussed these issues in these threads

https://elsmar.com/elsmarqualityforum/threads/9311/

https://elsmar.com/elsmarqualityforum/threads/8456/

I think that the most significant point is as IATF say in their FAQ

Supplier Development (Revised July 2003. Answer reformatted for clarity)

my emphasis

 

[Sandra Shepard]

Note: Only for manufacturing suppliers, you dont need to ask Wal-Mart to be certified.

If only manufacturing suppliers have to be ISO registered, why is our registrar insisting that our service and tooling suppliers be registered?

 

[howste]

That's a good question. Maybe you should refer them to the IATF FAQ that states:

“Supplier” in this clause (7.4.1.2) refers to sites where production and/or service parts specified by the customer are manufactured.

It doesn't apply to calibration labs, transportation companies, tooling suppliers, consultants, etc.