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Inventory Control as an ISO 9001 Requirement

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vanputten

#11
Hello Badbob:

Is it correct that the organization has an Inventory Control Team and a Materials Manager but no inventory control system? What do they do?

Also, why are you surprised that production did not notify anyone when they removed parts from the Stores?

And why do they even have a Stores?

By the clues you have provided, it appears there is an intent to have an inventory control system. It may not be effective but there are clues of an intent.
 
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BadBob

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Somashekar,

What I'm saying is that some form of inventory control is better than none and that change will come over time.

The inventory control "team" is the manager and her assistant.

VanPutten,

The team covers purchasing, materials management, shipping and receiving and whatever else is thrown their way. There is very little in the way of a system. We have seen materials received, product built, packaged and awaiting shipping that contains parts that haven't been entered into inventory because accounting is waiting for an invoice.

I've only been here a month and I'm not at all surprised by what happened. You're right, the intent is there, it just hasn't been implemented. I'm working to change the culture and looking for ideas to help me build concensus.
 
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BadBob

#13
It looks like I have my answer regarding Inventory Control as a requirement. The challenge will be persuading the staff that it's needed even though it isn't technically required. If you have suggestions on how to present that, I'm all ears.
 
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It looks like I have my answer regarding Inventory Control as a requirement. The challenge will be persuading the staff that it's needed even though it isn't technically required. If you have suggestions on how to present that, I'm all ears.
It appears you've already identified some reasons for it - the stoppage of the line, is a great example. What you might have to do is start to gather some data on how often this happens, a log or similar. Then you can attempt to put a cost to that disruption, premium paid on getting parts/materials etc. Once you have that, the reasons for installing an inventory control system should be pretty obvious. (If you have to use a requirement of ISO to help you, 7.2.2 is the closest)
 

Paul Simpson

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#15
I am currently working to qualify a small manufacturing business for ISO9001:2008. I know this is hard to believe, but they have no inventory control system and don't particularly want one. I know that inventory documents are subject to audit, I can't find anything in the standard that identifies inventory control as a requirement that I can point to in support of my position. Any suggestions on how to address this?
Now this depends on what you mean by 'inventory control.' There is a need to carry out planning and have control of all of the 'production' processes and that includes everything from receipt of components through to delivery.

The other advice on control of inventory levels and linking to corrective action is all good stuff BTW.
 
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BadBob

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Thanks for another confirmation that I'm on the right track. Nothing seems to work quite as well as using existing data to justify change. When "we've always done it this way" becomes a liability, change can begin. All of you have been a big help. Thanks again. Now to drag them into the 21st century...

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JaneB

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Just last week, a product line stopped completely because parts had been removed from stores by production personnel who failed to notify the inventory control team they were taking them. No requisition, no traceability, nothing. When the parts ran out and no additional parts had been ordered, the President of the company went after the Materials Manager for failing to order parts removed from stores without her knowledge.
Now that's relevant data and a good example.

change will come over time.
Yes, you're right. Changes of culture don't happen overnight, but they do and will happen with a better system, which demonstrates to the people concerned how different it can be when there's a half-way decent system in place (or even just something better than nothing!).

As Andy said:

It appears you've already identified some reasons for it - the stoppage of the line, is a great example. What you might have to do is start to gather some data on how often this happens, a log or similar. Then you can attempt to put a cost to that disruption, premium paid on getting parts/materials etc. Once you have that, the reasons for installing an inventory control system should be pretty obvious. (If you have to use a requirement of ISO to help you, 7.2.2 is the closest)
I wouldn't say the inventory control system isn't 'technically required', rather I'd say it isn't an explicit requirement and that the reason it isn't is because 9001 is a generic standard - ie, it says what (but not how) AND it is deliberately intended to be applicable to all organisations and not just manufacturing ones. I know this can be a bit hard to remember for those steeped in MF environments, but as an example, if it was an explicit requirement, the nice architectural practice I was meeting with yesterday would have been scratching their heads and giving me this look: :confused:
As in, Jane, are you telling us we have to have some system to control our drawing pencils and paper supplies in order to get ISO 9001? Why? (See what I mean?)

Nothing seems to work quite as well as using existing data to justify change. When "we've always done it this way" becomes a liability, change can begin.
Yes indeedy.

Incidentally, I'd be using this as a fine example of teachnig them something about the inter-relatedness of the Standard, such as:
5.3: Actually following their Quality policy (not just paying lip service) - if it's the right policy, it'll have something in it about meeting customer requirements, and you can't do that (eg, time deadline) with production lines stopping or being held up
5.4.1 Quality objectives: again, if they have the right ones, such a lack of an ICS will negatively impact those
And yes, I like 7.2.2 (as Andy already quoted) - how can they argue that they are meeting clause c)?? They can't!

And re. that President going after... I'd take a good look at 5.5.1. Sounds like responsibilities & authorities aren't clearly delineated. And nothing but nothing is more difficult than having the responsibility for something (eg, to maintain inventory) but not the corresponding authority.
 

somashekar

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Somashekar,

What I'm saying is that some form of inventory control is better than none and that change will come over time.

The inventory control "team" is the manager and her assistant.

VanPutten,

The team covers purchasing, materials management, shipping and receiving and whatever else is thrown their way. There is very little in the way of a system. We have seen materials received, product built, packaged and awaiting shipping that contains parts that haven't been entered into inventory because accounting is waiting for an invoice.

I've only been here a month and I'm not at all surprised by what happened. You're right, the intent is there, it just hasn't been implemented. I'm working to change the culture and looking for ideas to help me build concensus.
Materials is money, Money blocked as materials that does not earn you anything if it lays there and catches dust. This must be converted into your products and sold to customers thereby realizing the earning.
Now like cash in a bank teller, your stores which holds materials (money) cannot be taken out till it is duly authorized. Once taken out, it must be accounted for use / scrap or duly returned back to stores as unused good material.
Next aspect is that unlike cash in bank teller which is liquid asset, and is always valued per its face value, your materials that comes into stores is NOT. Hence care must be while ordering the right material and the right quantity for use, and they must be used within stipulated time. Care must also be taken to handle shelf life marked materials in terms of ordering, storaging and using such that they do not die in your premises and account for loss.
If these two input and output in stores is controlled in your own best way, then it meets the inventory management requirement. Show how this discipline is integrated in your procedures, and how your persons handling materials are aware and sensitive to this issue that :
Materials is Money, money blocked in your factory and that it will lose its value if not purchased, stored and used judiciously.
 
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