Is it OK to put 2 Part Numbers on 1 PSW (Part Submission Warrant)?

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vardar3

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My supplier submitted 2 part numbers on 1 PSW:
  • it's for a 2 out prog Die.
  • Parts are left and right handed.
I have a problem with it, but don't know of a specific rule that prohibits this. Please let me know.
 
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Jim Wynne

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Re: Is it OK to put 2 part numbers on 1 PSW?

My supplier submitted 2 part numbers on 1 PSW:
  • it's for a 2 out prog Die.
  • Parts are left and right handed.
I have a problem with it, but don't know of a specific rule that prohibits this. Please let me know.
There is no specific rule that I know of, unless it's customer-specific. The danger for the supplier is that if one of the parts is good and the other isn't, they both get rejected. The only heartburn it should cause for a customer is having to duplicate the documentation for different files, and you don't want to do that, just tell your customer that there must be a separate PSW (or complete submission--let them do the duplicating) for each part number.
 

Golfman25

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Actually sound like a good idea to me. If you have a progressive die making a left and right part, your process is identical for both parts. They are made at the same time, in the same die, in the same press, with the same material, undergo the same production flow, have the same dimensional checks, have the same FEMA, same Control Plan. May as well have the same PPAP. What value is there in doing to seperate piles of the same documentation?
 

Jim Wynne

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Actually sound like a good idea to me. If you have a progressive die making a left and right part, your process is identical for both parts. They are made at the same time, in the same die, in the same press, with the same material, undergo the same production flow, have the same dimensional checks, have the same FEMA, same Control Plan. May as well have the same PPAP. What value is there in doing to seperate piles of the same documentation?
It's not a question of whether or not all of the documentation will be the same (except for dimensional reports); it's whether or not you can use one PSW for two part numbers. In the present case I think it probably doesn't make much difference whether there's one PSW or two.
 
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vardar3

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Kind of. These parts are slit tubes with a notch. On one of the parts, the slit runs along the notch, and has an out of print condition with the notch. I want to reques they don't put 2 part numbers on one PSW because of this.
 

Jim Wynne

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Kind of. These parts are slit tubes with a notch. On one of the parts, the slit runs along the notch, and has an out of print condition with the notch. I want to reques they don't put 2 part numbers on one PSW because of this.
You're the customer, so they should be doing it the way you want it done, within reason. It sounds like you're saying that the parts are different dimensionally, and not just symmetrically opposite. That's one good reason to have separate PSWs.
 
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Rand T

#8
If you want them seperated, than just tell your supplier what you need. It is only 1 pc. of paper.

If they have an issue, than just reject both of the part numbers; that will provide some incentive
 
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JaxQC

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The method I used to make the determination was the print. If it was charted and both numbers (LH & RH) were shown on the same chart print (usually symmetrical) then one was ok. If the LH & RH were shown on different prints, then (2) warrants. ie… no more than (1) print per warrant.
Just one opinion.
 
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jshaw

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I believe it is possible to say "see worksheet" under the part number and have a warrant cover a large list of parts. I have seen this done for minor changes across an entire family that includes many PN's
 
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