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Is not having a controlled copy of ISO 9001 standard a NonConformance?

Is not having a current copy of ISO9001:2000 a Nonconformance?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • No

    Votes: 18 78.3%
  • Total voters
    23
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tyker

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#111
Re: Not having an original copy of ISO 9001 standard, Is it a NonConformance?

This from a BSI newsletter received today.

"BS EN ISO 9001 has undergone a rigorous review by industry experts and the updated version will be out in the Autumn. It will be necessary for customers to have the revised version in order to keep their certificates up to date."

Their opinion, not mine.
 
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#112
#112
Re: Not having an original copy of ISO 9001 standard, Is it a NonConformance?

tyker said:
This from a BSI newsletter received today.

"BS EN ISO 9001 has undergone a rigorous review by industry experts and the updated version will be out in the Autumn. It will be necessary for customers to have the revised version in order to keep their certificates up to date."

Their opinion, not mine.
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Thanks Tyker. I'll ask some friends and get a copy of it when it comes out.:notme::lmao:
 
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AndyN

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#113
#113
Re: Not having an original copy of ISO 9001 standard, Is it a NonConformance?

tyker said:
This from a BSI newsletter received today.

"BS EN ISO 9001 has undergone a rigorous review by industry experts and the updated version will be out in the Autumn. It will be necessary for customers to have the revised version in order to keep their certificates up to date."

Their opinion, not mine.
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Well, of course. They publish the standard in the UK. Maybe they already have a sale on the 2K version..........
 
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amanbhai

#114
#114
Re: Not having an original copy of ISO 9001 standard, Is it a Non- Conformance?

Jim Wynne said:
In the hypothetical situation, I specified that all requirements have been met. It doesn't matter how it gets done, so long as it does get done.

Mind you, I realize that having a copy of the standard is a good thing, and I'm not adovocating setting fire to them. I'm simply saying that there is no explicit requirement to have a copy. Implicit requirements are subject to personal interpretation, and that's not a good place for external auditors to go.
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I feel that not having the copy of the standard is not a non conformity, though I also feel that you have to have copy of the standard to follow. We don't usually burn the copies of the standard that we have. We use them and keep them. :thanks:
 
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#115
#115
Re: Not having an original copy of ISO 9001 standard, Is it a Non Conformance?

WOW - what a read!

My take on this is basic Sunday School.

If my system is registered to ISO 9000, and that document is copyright, I would feel morally obligated to have bought as a minimum one copy.

Would I raise a non conformance for this? No way, it reeks of the missing cal sticker and wrong doc revision chicken sh*t type of finding.

But a bit of a red flag has been raised around corporate ethics.

Any company who wouldn't fork out a few bucks for a copy of the standard is likely going to have a lot more serious problems to be found that will make for value added non conformances.
 
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