Is possession of the ISO 9001 Standard Required?

[Crusader]

Definitely. and wayyyy HUGE. yes. Good thing though, is that this company is HUGE on record keeping, multi-function involvement, reviews, and approvals...that helps a lot.

 

[rickpaul01]

The auditor is not going to ask to see a copy of the ISO standard, because there is no requirement to have it. But I want to change the subject a little bit. I am AS9100 and the auditors have their own standard, AS9101. AS9101 has 400 questions the auditor has to answer. I was not really audited to the standard. I was audited to AS9101. So, I didn?t need to know the content of the standard at all. A valid argument could be made that I needed a copy of AS9101 more than I needed a copy of AS9100.

 

[Big Jim]

Without getting too far off topic, I always advise my AS9100 consulting clients to get a copy of AS9101 so they have a head start in knowing what they are being audited to. It's more than a mild irritation that AS9101 adds requirements, blindsiding the auditee.

 

[Big Jim]

Definitely. and wayyyy HUGE. yes. Good thing though, is that this company is HUGE on record keeping, multi-function involvement, reviews, and approvals...that helps a lot.

Best of luck with your endeavor.

I'm firmly in the camp that believes that you don't need to have a copy of the standard. I also believe that it would be in your best interest to have one.

 

[Crusader]

Best of luck with your endeavor.

I'm firmly in the camp that believes that you don't need to have a copy of the standard. I also believe that it would be in your best interest to have one.

I have an unofficial (not legal) photocopy. Given to me by a consultant a few years ago.

 

[rickpaul01]

It's more than a mild irritation that AS9101 adds requirements, blindsiding the auditee.

Glad I am not the only one who feels this way.

 

[Marc]

Also see: "Licensed" copy of ISO 9001 Standard During Audit - Has an Auditor Asked for Proof?

 

[insect warfare]

Best of luck with your endeavor.

I'm firmly in the camp that believes that you don't need to have a copy of the standard. I also believe that it would be in your best interest to have one.

Speaking of best interests, there are still many organizations out there who don't take the time and effort to purchase and read a copy of ISO 17021 (Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems). With all the talk on the Cove about how some CB auditors have misused their authority in various ways, it should make good business sense to know what the CB's requirements are so they know if and when they're being swindled, and where to go from that point.

Brian