Is TE9000 dead too ?

[Brian Dowsett]

Folks.

Now that the general concensus is that QS9000 will soon be replaced, what does anyone think will happen to the tooling and equipment supplement? Is it still worth toolmakers etc.. pursuing this or will something like TS16949-TE emerge ??
I'd be grateful for any informed knowledge,or inspired guesswork!

Thanks

Brian

 

[Marc]

I guess I'm brain dead. Hadn't really thought about that. There's also the Semi-Conductor Supplement... I dunno. Any takers on this one?

 

[Dan De Yarman]

For now, those of you like my company, will get registered to QS-9000 with TE Supplement because your customer tells you so. In terms of initiating the system yourself, I know as much about this as Marc, sorry.

I would think (pure conjecture at this point) that TS 16949 will replace everything associated with "QS" eventually. When, how, or where I don't know.

Dan

 

[Roger Eastin]

What strikes me about these standard changes (like QS9K to TS16949) is the lack of communication on what suppliers are supposed to do! Hopefully, somebody, somewhere will tell the suppliers what they are supposed to do! You're right, there's TE, TL, AS, SA, and on and on and on....

 

[Marc]

Suppliers should stand on their heads and spit wooden nickels until notified otherwise.....

 

[iqs4u]

You know that is a interesting point. I am pursuing TE-9000 currently and then Q1. As a backup plan, I an looking at the new ISO/TS 16949 standard and planning contingency just in case.. I must be nuts!

 

[Jim Evans]

We too are continuing with our efforts to obtain TE before the end of the year. Why? Because one of our two biggest customers is mandating that we do so. Will all this change? Count on it. We just don't know when. Like many of the alphabet soup initiatives of the past it will be when someone at one of the Big 3 gets a bug for "the next big thing". I know that during the time from when we passed our audit and when we received our ISO certificate (4 weeks)the same customer that mandated ISO certification was in here giving us a new dealine for TE certification. Must be their idea of continuous improvement.

One glimmer of hope. I heard through the grapevine that one of the Big 3 engineering groups has submitted a proposal to AIAG for a work group to develop some commonality in supplier requirements. I am not sure if it has been accepted or when it will be implemented.

Jim

[This message has been edited by Jim Evans (edited 18 August 2000).]

 

[foxwilds]

I was wondering. Does the Asian automakers put ther suppliers through these waste of time audits that never end? Seems like govenment.

 

[AndyN]

I was wondering. Does the Asian automakers put ther suppliers through these waste of time audits that never end? Seems like govenment.

Welcome Foxwilds. You'll notice that the thread you joined is dated 2000, so it's pretty much dead. Since you are asking in the TE 9000 and QS-9000 related threads, it's difficult to answer, except to tell you that TE 9000 is no longer in force with Tooling and Equipment suppliers, and QS-9000 was replaced by ISO/TS 16949.

Asian car makers do subscribe to ISO/TS 16949 certification in the supply chain.

Why do you say they're 'waste of time audits'?

 

[Marc]

I was wondering. Does the Asian automakers put ther suppliers through these waste of time audits that never end? Seems like govenment.

As Andy says, the TE Supplement hasn't been used for quite a few years.

This thread is obsolete so I'm closing it.