Is there a proper protocol to follow for Self Certification?

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francisjb

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Hello everyone,

I am new to the Quality game but through courses and constant reading I am learning very quickly. I do have my frist question for the Forum. My superior had asked me to research the possibilty of becoming Self Certified. I can not seem to find any information on this. In fact, I had never heard of it until now. Is there a proper protocal to follow and if so who issues the certification?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Francis
 
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Jen Kirley

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Re: Self Certification???

Welcome to The Cove Francis! :bigwave:

Are you talking about professional certification or registration to ISO?

If you're referring to professional certification, what is your job?

If you mean registration to ISO, what industry are you working in?
 
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francisjb

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Re: Self Certification???

Thanks for the welcome Jennifer! :D

Well... the goal is to become ISO certified but for the time being he would like us to shoot for a "Self Certification". I informed him I would research it as I had no idea what he was talking about.

My job is Quality Assurance Manager and I am currently in the Filtration field.
 
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Craig H.

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Re: Self Certification???

Self certification certainly is not unheard of. You can use internal auditors to perform the check, but an even better approach, IMO, would be to get a voulnteer from outside the company to audit you to ISO 9001. Maybe your local ASQ section would be a resource?

If you get a clean audit you can say that you are self-certified. It likely won't carry as much weight as a real third party certification, though.

The main thing, though is to use a template to inprove and maintain your processes. ISO 9001 can work, as can the National and State Quality Award criteria.
 

Jen Kirley

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Re: Self Certification???

I knew of a calibration facility that declared themselves "compliant" without claiming certification to the standard. This meant they were "certifying" they had all the controls in place, but did not go so far as to have the registrar come out because the costs were greater than they wanted to bear at that time.

Maybe that is what your boss meant.
 
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fuzzy

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Re: Self Certification???

Hello everyone,

I am new to the Quality game but through courses and constant reading I am learning very quickly. I do have my frist question for the Forum. My superior had asked me to research the possibilty of becoming Self Certified. I can not seem to find any information on this. In fact, I had never heard of it until now. Is there a proper protocal to follow and if so who issues the certification?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Francis
Welcome to the Cove from a fellow Granite-stater...:tg: you wouldn't happen to work in Ossipee would you??? The key to your question is the "self" part and how far your company would want to go to lend some legitimacy to any self-certification / compliance claims. The 2nd party audit is a good idea to lend some credibility; I'm sure there are others. If your company does self-certification up right, it seems to me like doing all the work without the payoff; buy the car but don't drive it anywhere!:2cents:
 
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ralphsulser

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Re: Self Certification???

I knew of a calibration facility that declared themselves "compliant" without claiming certification to the standard. This meant they were "certifying" they had all the controls in place, but did not go so far as to have the registrar come out because the costs were greater than they wanted to bear at that time.

Maybe that is what your boss meant.

This is not unusual if your customers do not require 3rd party registration by an approved certification body registrar.
You can declare your system as "ISO9001:2000 Compliant", but you need to be able to back it up with objective evidence.
 

Sidney Vianna

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Re: Self Certification???

Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Try the following threads:

Certified to ISG 9000 - A 'Self Certification' Scheme

If ANSI can self-declare, why not you?

And also check the bottom part of my post

Good for you. From what you describe, you have a good, solid process in place. You might want to consider your suppliers to become educated in the Self Declaration Guidance issued by ISO. Check http://www.iso.org/iso/en/commcentre/pressreleases/2004/Ref939.html



Ref.: 939
11 November 2004

Suppliers' declarations of conformity given added weight by new ISO/IEC standard

A new ISO/IEC standard defines requirements for suppliers (including manufacturers) to meet when they make formal claims that products, services, systems, processes or materials conform to relevant standards, regulations or other specifications.

Claims that meet the requirements of ISO/IEC 17050 are expected to inspire greater confidence among governments, regulatory authorities, consumers and end users than claims without such backing. This is because the standard represents an international consensus on good practice and establishes a benchmark that can be applied in all business sectors and in all countries.

ISO/IEC 17050 offers a framework for what is designated technically as a "supplier's declaration of conformity (SDoC)". An SDoC is one of the ways in which a supplier may seek to demonstrate conformity. This might be required, for example, by health, safety or environmental regulations - or is desirable because conformity gives potential purchasers greater confidence.

Other ways are by inviting the customer to verify conformity, or by engaging a specialized independent body, such as a testing laboratory or inspection service, to issue a certificate of conformity (e.g. product certification). An SDoC is less time-consuming than either of these options, which means that products can be developed and brought to market faster. It is also cheaper and the economies made by the supplier can be passed on to the customer.

The publication of ISO/IEC 17050 puts at the disposal of suppliers and manufacturers an SDoC methodology with greater transparency, added rigour and globally harmonized practice - which is likely to increase the use of this option in world trade. While streamlining the conformity assessment process, it does not remove the obligation of suppliers and manufacturers to conform to relevant regulations and other legal requirements - which is likely to encourage its acceptance by authorities, as well as the confidence of customers.

The new standard is in two parts. Part 1 specifies the general requirements for an SDoC. Its intent is to increase the value of an SDoC by establishing a clearly understandable International Standard for this conformity assessment option, and also to encourage its use by making the SDoC more acceptable to government and regulatory institutions. Part 1 includes a sample SDoC.

Part 2 is on supporting documentation to substantiate an SDoC, for example, results of tests carried out by the supplier or an independent body in order to meet legal requirements. Again, the intent is to encourage acceptance of an SDoC by customers and authorities.

ISO/IEC 17050 was developed by Working Group (WG) 24 of ISO/CASCO, Committee on conformity assessment. WG 24 Convenor, Joel Urman, comments: "The cost and time savings that result from SDoC unquestionably benefit suppliers of products, processes, services and systems. SDoC also significantly benefits their customers and all those who use and need their offerings."

ISO/IEC 17050-1:2004, Conformity assessment - Supplier's declaration of conformity - Part 1: General requirements, costs 47 Swiss francs. ISO/IEC 17050-2:2004, Conformity assessment - Supplier's declaration of conformity - Part 2: Supporting documentation, costs 34 Swiss francs. Both are available from ISO national member institutes (see the complete list with contact details) and from ISO Central Secretariat.
 
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francisjb

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Re: Self Certification - Is there a proper protocal to follow?

Thank you so much to everyone who responded. This helps immensely!! :D
 
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