Is TS 16949 going to be Obsoleted by 2008?

[Barahir]

As I mentioned earlier, they feel they have more than enough TS auditors in the pipeline. There is little demand to increase the number.

Right, I got that part. What I don't get is that if there's no need for any more TS auditors, then why are they offering the training every 4 to 5 weeks throughout this year?

 

[Helmut Jilling]

Right, I got that part. What I don't get is that if there's no need for any more TS auditors, then why are they offering the training every 4 to 5 weeks throughout this year?

Not sure what training they are offering, since I was not looking for any. I thought your post said they were NOT offering any, only supplier training?

 

[darkgelap]

Pas 99:2006

Hi all , great to be back...

Any of you have a copy of PAS 99:2006 IMS guide ?

not asking for a copy thou just asking for your thought on it...

Thanks and Regards,

 

[Paul Simpson]

Re: Pas 99:2006

Hi all , great to be back...

Any of you have a copy of PAS 99:2006 IMS guide ?

not asking for a copy thou just asking for your thought on it...

Thanks and Regards,

I have thanks. Not sure what this has to do with TS, though.

 

[Josey Wales]

They are offering recertification for exisiting auditors, thats whay there appears to be so many courses. They do run new auditors courses but not as many.

There are about as many auditors as the IATF wants, but not necissarily as many as the registrars would want. I work for a registrar and we are always looking for good TS auditors. It is not as easy for TS subcontractors to switch from registrar to registrar as it is for ISO. TS auditors are sponsored by a particular registrar, and while they can audit for two registrars there is a fee to doing that.

 

[AndyJP - 2012]

After reading the whole thread seems my inital thoughts were right they will not be dumping Ts 16949 after all why go back to QS9000 which was a poorer standard and TS 1st edition was bolstered by the inclusion of parts from VDA 6.1.

Just as a side issue I am starting to get calls about contracts that are for firms who are just working to VDA 6.1 now please correct me but has that like QS9000 been made obsolete by TS?

 

[Monypennyuk]

According to my Client Manager yesterday, Both the ISo9001 and Ts16949 will be re-isseud next year, The ISO first, then the Ts later part of the year.

IT was mainly thought to be tidying up loose ends, and no any huge changes.

Have to wait and see i guess.

 

[vanputten]

Hello Moneypennyuk:

Your client manager is incorrect.

No NWIP or New Work Item Proposal has been initialed within ISO related to TS 16949. TS will be affected by the ISO 9001 changes but there is no information upon which to base any timing. TS will not change next year based on how long a review of a technical specification takes.

 

[ralphsulser]

Hello Moneypennyuk:

Your client manager is incorrect.

No NWIP or New Work Item Proposal has been initialed within ISO related to TS 16949. TS will be affected by the ISO 9001 changes but there is no information upon which to base any timing. TS will not change next year based on how long a review of a technical specification takes.

What about TS16949 compliance due to changes in ISO9001 since it is the foundation of TS16949? Will we then have to incorporate those changes to remain TS16919 compliant?

 

[cheahga]

What about TS16949 compliance due to changes in ISO9001 since it is the foundation of TS16949? Will we then have to incorporate those changes to remain TS16919 compliant?

Hi Ralphsulser,

I don't think you need to do changes in order to comply with current TS 16949. Remember the old QS 9000: 1998 where it stay until 2003?

It will only mean you are complying to TS-2002 and not the ISO 9001: 200X?

Let's wait for the new TS perhaps......