Is TS 16949 going to be Obsoleted by 2008?

[Stijloor]

We just finished our semi-annual TS16949 2 day registrar surveillance audit.
Guess what....ZERO non-conformances.
Looks like I'll continue as management rep for a while regardless of title.

It was close, and he was ready to write one, but I found the elusive customer document. I knew we had it because I printed it some time ago. The guy who used it for his files took it with him when he left the company.
It was in a folder in another folder in my documents.
Everyone here contributed and I thanked them all for their team work.

I will sleep better tonight

Hello Ralph,

Thank you for the update. Congratulations with zero nonconformities.
I know that the coordination and guidance of your company's QMS is in excellent hands.
Go take a break!

Stijloor.

 

[Richard Durham]

Hi, First post or reply!

This seems to be a fairly definititive answer as to whether it is possible to withdraw ISO TS 16949. Considering the time and effort spent to "harmonise" the global quality requirements of the Automobile industry I feel the extension option will be used to give more time to the people working on the standard. Having worked in CENELEC on harmonising the European railway cable standards, the time taken to reach a compromise can be long, and for an engineer extremely frustrating, as the answer is technically obvious, but may be politically or commercially unacceptable for one or other of the parties concerned.
Have personally so far been spared the QS9000/ ISO TS 16949 introduction, as sofar we have always been Tier 3 or 4 and could get away with ISO 9001:2000. Unfortunately we appear to be on the verge of being commercially succesfull (did I really say that?) which may result in implementation.
Has anyone a clear concept for doing this with German Manufacturers?
Does anyone have PPAP in German?

Regards Richard

 

[antoine.dias]

Hi, and welcome to the cove.

PPAP is available in German ( copyrighted material ) and can be obtained in Europe via : http://www.adarecarwin.com/qs/

Best regards and lots of success,

Antoine

 

[sowmya]

I have checked with the certification body. no news regarding obsoletion still.

 

[wak125]

As TS 16949:2002 is ISO standard/ Technical Specification, Is there any way to get the information right from” Horse mouth” to clear this ambiguity.
ELSMAR forum is way of learning for people like me, and if badly need autheniticated "news" and views

 

[Stijloor]

As TS 16949:2002 is ISO standard/ Technical Specification, Is there any way to get the information right from” Horse mouth” to clear this ambiguity.
ELSMAR forum is way of learning for people like me, and if badly need authenticated "news" and views

Hello wak125,

It's very simple.

Authorized sources:

• www.iaob.org
• www.aiag.org
• Your Registrar/Certification Body

Stijloor.

 

[wak125]

Stijloor
None of the refereed sources tells about this issue

 

[Stijloor]

Stijloor
None of the refereed sources tells about this issue

Hello wak125,

Then it's not an issue! In other words: ISO/TS 16949:2002 will not go away.

P.S. I hope that whip was not meant for me.....

Stijloor.

 

[Marc]

TS 16949 will not be obsoleted by 2008

Then it's not an issue! In other words: ISO/TS 16949:2002 will not go away.

I agree.

Note that this is an old discussion thread which was started over 2 years ago. I can practically guarantee that if TS 16949 was going away (obsoleted) in 2008 there would be significant chatter about it here by now.

 

[Sidney Vianna]

Re: TS 16949 will not be obsoleted by 2008

The Smithers auditor told this client they should NOT pursue TS 16949 registration because supposedly in 2006 the TC committee is "...expected to meet and announce the demise of TS 16949...".

The last I heard from our auditor (registrar) TS was NOT ratified. In fact the rumor he heard was there may be a Q4 in the works, Ford, Chrysler, GM and Toyota - the big 3 emulating the Toyota production system. Should be interesting to sit back and watch.

You are absolutely right, 2006 is the limit for ISO/TS 16949:2002.

I was informed today by a very reiliable source (who shall remain nameless) that in effect the IAOB has indicated the demise of TS16949 in 2006.

Amazing how some rumours persist over a long period of time....