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ISIR vs. PPAP - Customer is requesting an ISIR Cover Sheet according VDA

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Piffepoffe

#1
Hello!

I am rather new in this forum and looking for help in the following issue.

A customer is requesting an ISIR Cover Sheet according VDA for a small amount of pieces and promises a fix amount for the next several years.
I am the PPAP-responsible in my company and so here is the question.

Do i have to create a new PPAP for this type only because of the cover sheet according VDA?
Or is it enough to only create this Cover Sheet (it is a kind of PSW) and send it back to the customer without any PPAP activities (marking on drawing, change notes, ...)

Really looking forward for help!

Kind Regards
 

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#2
Hello!

I am rather new in this forum and looking for help in the following issue.

A customer is requesting an ISIR Cover Sheet according VDA for a small amount of pieces and promises a fix amount for the next several years.
I am the PPAP-responsible in my company and so here is the question.

Do i have to create a new PPAP for this type only because of the cover sheet according VDA?
Or is it enough to only create this Cover Sheet (it is a kind of PSW) and send it back to the customer without any PPAP activities (marking on drawing, change notes, ...)

Really looking forward for help!

Kind Regards
Welcome to The Cove Forums! :bigwave: :bigwave:

In automotive land, the customer makes the call on PPAP and and contents of submission. To be sure, you should ask your customer.

Stijloor.
 
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Piffepoffe

#3
Thx for the quick answer.

But are there also any signs of the customer that he wants to have a PPAP. For example if he asks for a Part Submission Warrant or an IMDS-entry of the product.

Or do the customer normally has to ask explicit for a PPAP?

TY in advance.
 

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#4
Thx for the quick answer.

But are there also any signs of the customer that he wants to have a PPAP. For example if he asks for a Part Submission Warrant or an IMDS-entry of the product.

Or do the customer normally has to ask explicit for a PPAP?

TY in advance.
All of these details are usually discussed, clarified, and agreed upon during the contract review process.

Stijloor.
 

Howard Atkins

Forum Administrator
Staff member
Admin
#5
Please as the responsible make sure that this is agreed at the start.
It is in each case a specific Customer Requirement.

PPAP as you know it is not a TS requirement rather a specific customer or customers requirement.

The requirements of VDA 2 are a similar customer specific requirement as the AIAG PPAP handbook.
 
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