ISO 45001 and outsourcing the transporation of products

sunrizenew

Involved In Discussions
#1
Dear

I have a question related to ISO 45001 Clause 8.3

if we are a manufacturing unit, we outsource the transportation and shipping of our products to an external company

in this case are we responsible for the driver and car how they drive? and if they cause an accident to another people while transport our product.

we sign a contract with them, that they should use a qualified driver and follow all traffic rules
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor

Sidney Vianna

Post Responsibly
Staff member
Admin
#2
Dear

I have a question related to ISO 45001 Clause 8.3
There is no such clause in ISO 45001:2018. Outsourcing is 8.1.4.3. The standard is clear that the organization shall ensure that outsourced functions and processes are controlled and the driver of the transportation company falls under the definition of worker. As a timely example, if you have guidance/regulations to protect your own employees in this time of COVID-19 pandemic, why wouldn't you flow down the same to the transportation company employees? Are there any SDS Training required? PPE deployment? OSHA reporting? They need to be aware and comply. If you don't flow down your applicable OHS requirements to the transportation contractors, you are not CONTROLLING the transportation function.
 

junior1505

Starting to get Involved
#3
Greetings of the day, Sunrizenew,
Clause 8.1.4.3 is clear that outsourced functions, services, activities and processes are controlled to the type and degree. As you have already recited, you can have a contract or an agreement with the service provider of clearly specifying what are with your and his scope, taking into the interest of the organisation.
Suppose, you have a logistics arrangement for the company workers, then its better and legally you bear the entire responsibility of the contractor including the driver. But if its a logistics for receipt or delivery of the material, then you can judge and apply the controls.
Regards.
 

Henria

OSH Officer
#4
Hello.

I believe above all that this paragraph "outsourcing" means that the company that outsources a function cannot ignore the way in which the subcontractor manages the OH&S of its personnel.

This management must be consistent with the OHSMS of the company which outsources and in line with the OH&S regulatory requirements. However, that does not mean that the outsourcing company is responsible (in particular legally) for the OH&S of the external entity members.

Cordially.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
R ISO 45001 Lead Auditor Exam paper Training - Internal, External, Online and Distance Learning 1
S ISO 45001 - 5.4 Participation and consultation Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 3
K Beginner in ISO 45001 here! Three questions Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 6
Sidney Vianna Interesting Discussion Legal compliance as part of ISO 45001 accredited certification. Major OSHA penalties in the USA. Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 15
I Document templates required for ISO ISO 45001 - Engineering Construction company Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 5
Ashok sunder Need ISO 45001:2018 HIRA template Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 9
Ashok sunder ISO 45001:2018 Documentation template Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 4
Ashok sunder Needs and expectations of workers and other interested parties ISO 45001 Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 13
Ashok sunder How to determine the internal and external issues in ISO 45001 standard? Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 2
T Book Recommendation for ISO 45001:2018 Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 0
Sidney Vianna Friction between ISO and ILO on the 45001 and 26000 fronts Other ISO and International Standards and European Regulations 2
S How to address and implement OH&S opportunities in ISO 45001:2018? Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 12
R ISO 45001 (FDIS) Webinar - Jan 24 2018 at 11:00 am ET Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 1
Claes Gefvenberg Publication of ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety - Further delays? Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 6
H ISO 45001:2018 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 104
T ISO 9001:2015 - Small Shop ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
T ISO 17025:2017 requirement 5.7.b. about maintenance the integrity of the management system ISO 17025 related Discussions 0
M ISO 9001:2015 case study sample ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 2
M Sample of Nonconformity report for ISO 9001:2015 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 0
Q ISO 9001 8.5.1 - Control of production and service performance ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 5
B Do IFU designs have to be document controlled under ISO 13485? Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 1
H ISO 13485 - Separate Microbiology Audits ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1
M Case study help as per ISO 9001: 2015 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 15
M Case study solution help required as per ISO 9001 : 2015 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 0
C Production and Post Production feedback - ISO 13485 ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
T ISO 13485 - 5.5.1 Responsibility and authority - Small Company Independence ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 13
A Refusal to discuss ISO 9001 obligations... what to do? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 8
A What does this sentence "this symbol shall be used in the orientation shown" mean in ISO 780:2015? Other Medical Device Related Standards 4
B Can we be ISO 9001 certified without a physical office? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
D Test summary report example for design validation wanted - ISO 13485 ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1
J Informational ISO 24971:2020 Released ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 0
S Documenting Design Verification Test Results (ISO 9001) Design and Development of Products and Processes 1
A Question on ISO 14001:2015 - Are annual audits required? ISO 14001:2015 Specific Discussions 8
N Which EN ISO 17664 version compliance to EU MDR? Elsmar Cove Forum Suggestions, Complaints, Problems and Bug Reports 3
Sidney Vianna Informational New edition of ISO 29001 released (June 2020) Oil and Gas Industry Standards and Regulations 0
R Who is the customer in the ISO/IEC 17025:2017? ISO 17025 related Discussions 1
T ISO 13485 - Process validation at critical suppliers ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 7
L Combining 3 ISO 9001 registrations into 1 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 2
M Risk Analysis Flow - Confusion between ISO 14971 and IEC 62304 IEC 62304 - Medical Device Software Life Cycle Processes 7
C Compliance with ISO 17025 requirement 8.4.2 - Controls - Records recovery ISO 17025 related Discussions 4
N EN ISO 13640:2002 vs EN ISO 23640:2011 Other Medical Device Related Standards 1
O ISO 13485 vs. GMP - Comparison matrix wanted EU Medical Device Regulations 0
K ISO 15223-1 Do Not Reuse and Do Not Resterilize Other Medical Device Related Standards 5
A ISO 10002:2018 Checklist Needed (Complaints Handling) Customer Complaints 5
N Sampling Plan for Internal Audits - ISO 2859 or 3951 - Or Neither? Internal Auditing 6
O ISO 13485 - Is management review required before stage 1? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 6
BeaBea ISO 9001 Customer Feedback Methods - What has worked for your company? Service Industry Specific Topics 16
O In addition to the standard, what other ISO 13485 sources do people recommend? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 5
Watchcat ISO 13485 for IVD (In-vitro Diagnostic Device) Manufacturers? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 9
G New to ISO 9001 - Where to begin? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 17
Similar threads


















































Top Bottom