ISO 45001 for a small design organization
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Randy
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You have to justify it as an organization and as a business decision.............Will it help you make more money? Yes or No.
Off the top of my head, here in the US, unless you have a client that says do it, you'd probably be spinning your heels, wasting time & effort. Just go by whatever national safety regs that are relevant.
Of course I've only been a safety professional 35+ years and in the ISO or management system safety business about 25 years and I could be guessing at best.
Off the top of my head, here in the US, unless you have a client that says do it, you'd probably be spinning your heels, wasting time & effort. Just go by whatever national safety regs that are relevant.
Of course I've only been a safety professional 35+ years and in the ISO or management system safety business about 25 years and I could be guessing at best.
Randy
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Do you have a real or potential customer asking? If not, you may very well be expending effort for no reason.
geoffairey
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TLDR: for a company of 3 people, ISO 45001 is a massive overhead unless your people are doing activities which are a threat to their safety or health.
Long answer: There are other reasons to implement ISO 45001 (and please remember that implementing a standard does NOT mean that you have to certificate to it Unless you agree to) other than your Customer requires it.
The primary reason to implement ISO 45001 would be put a structure around keeping your employees safe and healthy. You don’t say whether you have implemented or are certificated to any other standards. If, for example, you’re already certificated to ISO 9001 or ISO 27001 then lots of the core for the implementation of 45001 is already in place.
In your scenario I wouldn’t recommend you do this, and if a Customer (or potential customer) insists, ask them to justify the requirement for the work you are doing for them. Too many companies take a hard supplier line that because they (the Customer) is certified, they expect all suppliers to be too rather than doing what the standard suggests and taking a risk based approach.
geoffairey
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It’s really not. If you or the company you’re working for think of an ISO standard as a piece of paper or a badge, you’re doing it for the wrong reasons, you will not implement the standard properly (i.e. it becomes a tick box exercise) and you will not get the benefit.
Again, if the customer is insisting, ask them to justify it. I’ve had to face down a few customers requiring ISO 14001 and 45001 certification for the company I work for, and when I challenged them, they couldn’t answer why. We removed it from the redlined contract or answered No to the question on the Prequal, and it didn’t make a difference to the outcome of the decision whether to purchase or not.
Randy
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Really? If a certificate is that important anyone on here can print you one for a fee with a fancy heading and pretty words.
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It's not about the certificate, it's about the reasoning and the process. How serious are your health and safety risks at your 3 employee company that does design work?
