"ISO 9000 Quality Systems Handbook" by David Hoyle

Marc

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#21
Dispose - Get rid of.
Destruct - Destroy.

Two different terms. In this case Destroy is only one of the many ways to get rid of (dispose of) a document.
 
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Wes Bucey

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:topic:I'm aware Jim Wynne has a habit of searching the internet for citations when he wants to refute something or someone to which he takes exception. In this case, though, I believe he is really stretching to defend his point of view. In some circles, this is called, variously, isogesis or eisegesis - I'm never sure of the spelling - but it refers to the practice of selectively choosing only the citations which back one's original point of view and "conveniently" omitting contrary ones as if they don't exist. Often, it includes conferring "common sense" meanings to specialized words or terms or using a "modern" definition when a different meaning was in use at the time the original citation was created. Hence, an outrageous example of eisegesis might be to declare the word "knew" (used in the King James translation to refer to copulate or impregnate) means that ALL births were miraculous because "knew" in the "common sense" modern definition only refers to a level of acquaintance.

Summary:
I continue to maintain that, in the context of document management, "dispose" and "disposition," when used by experts, refer ONLY to the transfer of documents from one area (or control) to another. Further, that the term "destroy" is the term of choice when electronic or hard copy documents are to be permanently rendered unreadable or unrecoverable by anyone.
 

Wes Bucey

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Of course. Note the image on a plumber's truck I see driving in my area:

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They have plumbing in Utah?! Wow!;) Somewhat off the humorous vein, I'm aware some communities have such problems with their sewage treatment plants being overburdened that they have outlawed the use of kitchen disposers. Many folks with well & individual septic systems also eschew disposals for fear of overburdening their systems.
For me: I LOVE the sound of a disposer almost as much as I LOVE the sound of our automatic dishwasher.:tg:
 

Jim Wynne

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:topic:I'm aware Jim Wynne has a habit of searching the internet for citations when he wants to refute something or someone to which he takes exception. In this case, though, I believe he is really stretching to defend his point of view.
I'm in the habit, if you want to call it that, of supporting contentions with evidence. This is as opposed to making unsupported assertions based on appeals to doubtful authority.
Summary:
I continue to maintain that, in the context of document management, "dispose" and "disposition," when used by experts, refer ONLY to the transfer of documents from one area (or control) to another. Further, that the term "destroy" is the term of choice when electronic or hard copy documents are to be permanently rendered unreadable or unrecoverable by anyone.
No here has said that "dispose of" is a suitable substitute for "destroy" when the intention is to render something unrecoverable. The question is whether "disposition" and "disposal" are synonymous or interchangeable in terms of document management. They clearly are not.
 
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