This is a really good discussion, all.
If I'm measuring something with a linear scale, and the results produced are valid (i.e., there's no evidence that lack of calibration has ever resulted in anything bad happening), it's wasteful to do calibration and it's not required by the standard.
How would one know the results are valid? Against what standard would you say it's valid? When I use anything to measure something else, I am making some kind of assumption that item is more correct than the item I'm measuring. If your standard has always been 10 psi off, and all the devices have been 10psi off, there's an assumption that the error will be observed. When you find out you start having problems, how many products have you shipped?
Saying, it's not wasteful to perform calibrations, and can be considered a prevention cost, IMHO.
I do agree there is a lot of wasteful calibrations. I think people calibrate a lot of instruments/equipment that are not used; very wasteful IMO.
How can you call the measurement valid if a calibrated device is out of tolerance and no one knows it? The act of calibration, in and of itself, doesn't ensure valid results.
I simply don't follow that at all. Properly calibrating a device... well... let me back up. If prior to any adjustment I verify the performance of the instrument, that is a qualification. I am qualifying it's performance to some specification. Then, adjustment and final readings and all.
You're correct, using an out of tolerance instrument will not produce a valid result. Hence, having an effective calibration program will increase the validity of the measurement process.
When something measured is found to be perilously close to a specification limit, no one should assume that the measurement is accurate, regardless of the calibration status of the device, and I mean even if the thing was calibrated an hour ago. The verification process should include verifying the device, (or use of another device of known accuracy) or the method or the operator, or all three.
Totally agree on this one.
Well stated. The process needs to be validated so that it produces valid results. Having properly qualified instruments will be necessary.
Jim, I have learned from you on this subject to exert a little more thought to a calibration process.
I think that so many programs just start having everything under the sun calibrated, usually within way too frequent intervals. Saying, calibration activities come out of knee-jerk reactions to the standards, and not a critical review of the processes and what is needed.
I just would be concerned with creating a scenario where you calibrate nothing, then justify calibration; instead of the opposite of calibrate your instruments, then back off from that. Sometimes I find the hunt is not worth the kill.
I can have the instrument calibrated annually, and satisfy most all requirements for that instrument.