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ISO 9001:2008 Gap Analysis Template - Please help

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Hello all,

I am desperately needing a gap analysis template for ISO 9001:2008. I have searched over and over for a template on the forum but can not find one for 9001:2008. I am in such a hurry any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much.
 
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Randy Lefferts

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Re: ISO 9001:2008 Gap Analysis-- Please help

Hello all,

I am desperately needing a gap analysis template for ISO 9001:2008. I have searched over and over for a template on the forum but can not find one for 9001:2008. I am in such a hurry any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much.
Here is a thread that actually contains a couple of documents to work with.

Post 15 by Colin and Post 16 by QA Compliance.

Hope this helps.
 

Jim Wynne

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Re: ISO 9001:2008 Gap Analysis-- Please help

Hello all,

I am desperately needing a gap analysis template for ISO 9001:2008. I have searched over and over for a template on the forum but can not find one for 9001:2008. I am in such a hurry any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much.
A template for 9001:2000 should do, because there were no significant changes between the 2000 and 2008 versions.
 

Randy

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If you have a copy of ISO 9001:2008 in your hand you have the template...Just turn everything into a question...Where it says "the organization shall" just ask "do we?"

That's all everybody else does.
 
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If you have a copy of ISO 9001:2008 in your hand you have the template...Just turn everything into a question...Where it says "the organization shall" just ask "do we?"

That's all everybody else does.
I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, Randy. Often, it's the job of a consultant to bring the nature of the gaps to the client's attention, in a manner they understand better than the awful terminology in the ISO document. Seriously, would any senior management have a clue if you told them their 'Product Realization Process' wasn't compliant...?:notme:
 
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BEN6523

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I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, Randy. Often, it's the job of a consultant to bring the nature of the gaps to the client's attention, in a manner they understand better than the awful terminology in the ISO document. Seriously, would any senior management have a clue if you told them their 'Product Realization Process' wasn't compliant...?:notme:
As a general manager I certainly would and I didn't have a quality background until I implemented first ISO9001 then TS16949 without the aid of external consultants.......

I have a bit of a problem with the "Its a consultants job to understand the standard" line you seem to be suggesting Andy. If no one within the organisation can understand ISO9001 what hope is there of following never mind maintaining, developing and improving the QMS once you pass the audit and the consultant leaves. I have audited a few potential suppliers who bought a "consultant lead" QMS. Try asking questions and the system shows for what it is - a certificate saying ISO9001 on the wall and some ring binders with words in them that no one read since the consultant left soon after the auditor. I guess the consultant will be back a bit before the next audit to earn some more money and update a few words. Needless to say it tends to be a fairly short 2nd party audit.

If you are not sure what a phrase in the standard means search this forum and you soon will. It is nearly as quick as talking to a consultant and significantly cheaper. :read: There is certainly a place for consultants but understanding ISO9001:mad: [End of rant]

And to get back to the original question - I agree with Randy that the standard is the best basis for a checklist. I have used 2 approaches to an actual checklist in 2 QMS developments.

If you are basically going to write/upgrade the system on your own I would recommend a soft pencil, an eraser and make notes on your copy of the standard - which procedure you cover/are going to cover the requirement under. As you write the procedure flick through and tick them off on the standard. Quick and dirty but it works. It also makes it dead easy to do a cross reference document between your QMS and the standard.

The second approach I have used (for TS16949 but it doesn't matter) is a simple excel file with columns for Gap, Plan, Reponsible person, planned date and complete date. Doesn't work any better than the first but it is much easier to share if multiple people are writing/changing procedures and it looks a lot more proffesional if you need to show it to Customers. :D

Thats my experience for what it is worth as a fairly green person who has been through this twice but it worked for me with passes first time on both.

Ben
 
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Ben - thanks for the feedback. I'm not suggesting that the consultant be as you described, but that's what you read.

My point is that much of the standard needs some practical understanding of what can/should be done to comply, effectively. For example, we read all kinds of bizarre non-sense about calibration, internal audits and document controls, yet, what's actually needed is very simple and, can be accomplished without any of the non-sense. The consultant's job is often to steer the client away from non-sense that they pick up, by past experiences, hear-say and innuendo...
 
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JaneB

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As a general manager I certainly would and I didn't have a quality background until I implemented first ISO9001 then TS16949 without the aid of external consultants.......
Good for you, that's great. (Makes you an exception, but.)

Entirely agree that at least some person and more preferably more than one in the organisation needs to understand ISO 9001.

The approaches you mention are sound.

The sort of 'consultant' document you describe is anathema to me, and to all professional consultants. Unfortunately, yes, there are some people around who have assumed the title, but do that sort of cr*&p - and which all experienced quality professionals, consultants or no, loathe and disaparage. And give all us consultants an undeserved bad name. I for one, don't want to come back and 'earn more money' - I much prefer to have clients learn about real quality and develop the inhouse expertise to do it themselves. That gives me far greater rewards.
 
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