ISO 9001:2015 8.6 & 8.5.1.h) - Redundant or different?

smryan

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8.6 Release of products and services & 8.5.1.h) Control of production and service provision, the implementation of release, delivery and post-delivery activities. Can someone please explain how these are actually different from each other? Seems to me 8.6 just says the same thing with different phrasing. Will an external auditor be looking for something different for each?
 
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8.6 Release of products and services & 8.5.1.h) Control of production and service provision, the implementation of release, delivery and post-delivery activities. Can someone please explain how these are actually different from each other? Seems to me 8.6 just says the same thing with different phrasing. Will an external auditor be looking for something different for each?
§ 8.5.1 describes all of the facets of what constitutes "controlled conditions", while § 8.6 establishes the actual requirements for release of products/services. Similar to § 8.5.1d) and § 7.1.3/4.
 

skb76

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hi!

Just give opinion ~ (correct me i'm wrong!)

to simplify (can be prove to Auditor)

8.5.1 ~ can be proved by SOP ~ QC/QA report ~ delivery documentation ..
8.6 ~ The authority/management/QC/QA Head of that department(etc); approved,signed the release of the FINAL finish goods (can be Master List, or maybe 'final qc report)
 

smryan

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OK, so our QA packet resulting in a signed COC is the evidence for both of these. While this makes me feel like they are redundant they are, in fact, emphasizing different aspects of the process. I can see that more clearly when I take a step back from the "What is our evidence for compliance?" question that has been my constant companion. One for the actual control of the process, the other for the proof. I guess its been a while since I've banged my head against a wall to shake the cobwebs loose. :frust:
 
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