ISO 9001 News ISO 9001:2015 Amendment 1 Published - Determination of Climate Change Relevance * Poll added May 2024

[qusys]

In my last organization we did look at the risks posed by climate change to our business. Just like we looked at political, weather, earthquake, etc. risks as we bought a lot of things from China and many were sole or single sourced. We had a good panic in early 2020 as one of the most critical single source items was from Wuhan… And as I’ve posted before we were affected by the 3rd 500 year flood in 3 years when the only US resin plant in Houston was under 8 feet of salty gross water and had to shut down for months to clean up. We also looked at distribution locations and alternate shipping as weather disruptions to our shipping guarantee were changing. This is all really business continuity stuff that was covered by our supply chain groups.

We looked at how we affected climate change since it was becoming a selling point and an employee recruiting advantage. We installed EV chargers, encouraged EV, Hybrid etc. vehicles by providing premium parking areas. We had the city add a regular bus stop at our location to allow workers to use mass transportation instead of individual cars. We went with a LEEDS approach to the design of a new building addition. This was all mostly led by our facilities group with direction from senior leadership to look at our environmental impact. We also had a deep look at redesigning some of our product to be recyclable instead of needing special waste handling. We changed our packaging to be easier to recycle at the suggestion of many Customers.

Almost all of this was captured in our annual strategic plans. The plans aren’t quality records by the way. This was all just good business practice.

There are many things you can do. But I am still opposed to the specific requirement as it is not solely a quality thing and has no real guidelines as to how to reasonably audit it. It is simply another way for idiot power hungry bitter auditors to take their frustration at the their lack of influence and success out on us.

Yes Bev D,
it seems like to have the classic ball of crystal
However, I think that this could be covered by respecting regulations and countries laws.

 

[arpitadey15]

Navigating the intersection of business continuity and climate change poses challenges. It's crucial for quality practitioners to dissect decisions impacting registrants. The potential for auditors to misinterpret climate change measures raises concerns. We may witness auditors' diverse interpretations, possibly leading to unexpected challenges for those seeking certification. The situation underscores the need for clear standards and effective auditor training.

 

[qusys]

What I still find interesting is the lack of clarification of whether or not the assessment of the effect is of climate change on the organization or the organizations effect on climate change. I get the former and fear the latter.

Hi Bev D,
I think at the both aspect after reading this link above mentioned , right?

Deploying ISO’s London Declaration to Climate Action via Management System Standards

committee.iso.org

 

[Bev D]

This does nothing to clarify what auditors can and cannot do. It only perpetuates the ambiguity of what is required, who are interested parties and what is relevant to an organization. It is a cowardly over-reach.

 

[Ed Panek]

Navigating the intersection of business continuity and climate change poses challenges. It's crucial for quality practitioners to dissect decisions impacting registrants. The potential for auditors to misinterpret climate change measures raises concerns. We may witness auditors' diverse interpretations, possibly leading to unexpected challenges for those seeking certification. The situation underscores the need for clear standards and effective auditor training.

Navigating the intersection of business continuity and climate change poses challenges.

Climate change is an issue for businesses to remain in business!?

It's crucial for quality practitioners to dissect decisions impacting registrants.

Quality practioners? Do they work for registrants?

The potential for auditors to misinterpret climate change measures raises concerns.

Small concerns? Big ones?

We may witness auditors' diverse interpretations, possibly leading to unexpected challenges for those seeking certification.

Who is "we?"

The situation underscores the need for clear standards and effective auditor training.

What situation requires unclear standards and horrible auditor training exactly?

 

[Bev D]

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[Mike S.]

 

[Randy]

Already turning into a "goat rope", had some training on it today................

 

[ScottK]

Warning to our members: Arpitadey15 posts word salad - albeit elegant - responses that do not add to the conversation. Their responses are summarizations of our discussions and are quite simply Pabulum (or common spelling in the US pablum). This entity claims to be a ‘content creator’. They do not claim any understanding or experience let alone expertise in the Quality profession. This entity has refused to reply to any inquiries directed at them as to their background or intent.

Yeah - I just ran the text through a couple AI checkers and got high probability that was AI generated. Like 93% probability.

 

[dramman]

So can We determine that climate change is not relevant to our business?