ISO 9001 Audit Manday and New Records Requirements

[Marc]

> Spent the last few weeks working through a network server
> 'migration' that (as you may guess....) did not go 100% to
> plan.

Similar to what I went through here. It's not fun at all.

 

[Vash Stampede]

Hi Marc,

Originally posted by Marc:
"There are a few issues. First is you don't say how many employees at you facility. The audit mandays is dependent upon that number.
Secondly, you don't state your frequency (6 months or 1 year)."

In respose to the number of employees, we are 259. Registrar audit us once a year.

Vash Stampede
vashstampede@hotmail.com

 

[Raffy]

Hi
Actually, just like Vash I'm also having a problem in negotiating with our registrar regarding the price for our re-certification.
Number of mandays was a great concern.

Originally posted by Al Dyer:
The 8 mandays may be completed in 4 but the cost doesn't change.

They said that their number of mandays is based on the IAF (International Accrediation Forum)....for a manpower of 255. They said that there's a bracket in which we belong. So that's why?

But we insist that their price is too high for a company like ours. I was wonderin' whether there's a group in which we truly belong.....small, medium, and large scale......

How does the IAF affects the pricing for the number of mandays. 8 mandays is too many for a factory wherein in twenty minutes or less, one could see the whole area....

I'm quite confused now. Please help.

Thanks in advance,
Raffy
ffyra@yahoo.com

 

[Marc]

Originally posted by Vash Stampede

In respose to the number of employees, we are 259. Registrar audit us once a year.

Cross reference this number to ISO_Audit_Mandays.pdf file in the pdf_files directory (in the Members and Premium access directories it's Audit_Mandays.doc)

Raffy:

The registrar has to follow the guide for mandays pretty closely, but does have some latitude. They can spend a bit more time or less time and justify why they did so when their records are reviewed.

However, the registrar decides what to charge. Some are expensive and some are not. If they want to charge you US$10,000 a manday and you accept - that's your decision. I think earlier we said: "...US$5000 for 8 mandays is only US$625 a manday. Not too bad..." If your registrar is too expensive, interview others and compare them. There are hundreds of registrars now.

If you want to compare registrars there is Registrars_Comparing.pdf which will give you an idea of what to compare. (For Cove Premium Access members these are excel spreadsheets in the ISO Mains directory in a sub-directory named ISO9K_Imp_Misc. The file names {there are 2 different comparison spreadsheets} are Registrar_Comparison_1.xls and Registrar_Comparison_2.xls)