ISO 9001 News ISO 9001 Design Specification to be developed - May 2022

[jmech]

House of cards crumbling? Insiders turning against TC 176? Read the article available at and comments available @ Ron (Veronica) Stephens on LinkedIn: risk | 52 comments

Thanks for sharing that. Hopefully TC 176 starts to understand the significant problems with ISO 9001:2015 and fix them, but I'm not optimistic based on Paul Simpson's LinkedIn response, claiming in part that "Not much is wrong with ISO 9001":

 

[Sidney Vianna]

Unfortunately @Paul Simpson doesn’t post here anymore, but (in my opinion) he is misguided when he believes there is nothing wrong with ISO 9001. As the chair of the SC2 in TC 176, he has to toe the ISO line. In my assessment, there is a fundamental flaw with ISO 9001 and I explained it @ Interesting Discussion - ISO 9001:2024 - What should be changed in the next Edition of ISO 9001? - REVISION CANCELLED May 2021.
I do find amusing, though, that some of the biggest TC 176 insiders (from the USA) would write that article publicly criticizing the standard. Ironic.

 

[malasuerte]

Unfortunately @Paul Simpson doesn’t post here anymore, but (in my opinion) he is misguided when he believes there is nothing wrong with ISO 9001. As the chair of the SC2 in TC 176, he has to toe the ISO line. In my assessment, there is a fundamental flaw with ISO 9001 and I explained it @ Interesting Discussion - ISO 9001:2024 - What should be changed in the next Edition of ISO 9001? - REVISION CANCELLED May 2021.
I do find amusing, though, that some of the biggest TC 176 insiders (from the USA) would write that article publicly criticizing the standard. Ironic.

This should be a topic of a live discussion - Twitter Spaces??

 

[arpingsss]

I have read the whole DIS,but i could not find any merits from it at all.the world is moving fasterthan ever,but the standard ISO update once every 5 years,.the standard act as a clerk chasing a running bus even the bus is far far away.. we could not expect too much from the late late clerk。。

 

[qualitymanagerTT]

I have read the whole DIS,but i could not find any merits from it at all.the world is moving fasterthan ever,but the standard ISO update once every 5 years,.the standard act as a clerk chasing a running bus even the bus is far far away.. we could not expect too much from the late late clerk。。

Maybe you should consider ISO 9001 as the road (foundation of the QMS) in your example, instead of either the clerk or bus...