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ISO 9001 Internal Quality Audit by Consultants (External agency)

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ram4302

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Pl. clarify whether an organisation can hire the external agency (Consultancy) not certifyiing body for doing 1SO 9001:2008 Internal Quality audit .

The organisation has also documented the above same point in procedure for Internal quality audit to meet the ISO 9001:2008 requirement of 8.2.2.

Whether organisation can go ahead by using consultancy?

Is standard is allowing the same?

Look forward your response.:thanx:
 
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Colin

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Re: ISO 9001:2008 Internal Quality audit by consultants(External agency)

Yes, it is quite common for companies, especially small ones, to engage a consultant to perform the internal audits.

There are advantages such as the experience s/he should bring with them but the disadvantage is that they will never have quite the insight to the company as someone who works there.
 

howste

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Re: ISO 9001:2008 Internal Quality audit by consultants(External agency)

I do internal audits for quite a few companies as a contract auditor. Yes, it's definitely allowed. As Colin mentioned, there are some pros and cons. Each organization needs to look at their situation to see if it make sense for them.
 
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Duke Okes

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Why not do both? Perhaps have external consultant do the earlier ones to help make sure the system complies. Have some internal personnel follow/observe the audits in order to learn how auditing works. Then you can allow those internal auditors to audit some of the more mundane/simple processes, and the consultant to audit the management-level and system-management processes.
 
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trainerbob

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It is not unusual for some of us who are consultants to do audits for organizations. Sometimes they find it a financial advantage and sometimes we help new auditors by doing on the job training for them. All the standard says is that you need to have internal audits done. It does not say who should be involved.
 
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It is not unusual for some of us who are consultants to do audits for organizations. Sometimes they find it a financial advantage and sometimes we help new auditors by doing on the job training for them. All the standard says is that you need to have internal audits done. It does not say who should be involved.
Aha, but they must be competent! I'd be very careful about finding someone who does a real internal audit and not a pseudo CB audit, however. Don't forget, this is an internal audit and some folks, yes even consultants, do a version of a CB audit!
 
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