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ISO 9001 Standard vs. Technical specification (ISO/TS 16949) - Differences?

John Broomfield

John Broomfield

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vishalkifi said:
ISO 9001:2008 is explicitly the general requirement of customer & organiszation

ts 16949 : 2009 is the process based system .


VISHAL KIFI :thanx:
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Vishal Kifi,

This is incorrect. Both standards specify requirements for a process-based management system.

As a basic management system standard, ISO 9001 provides the foundation

ISO/TS 16949 specifies additional system requirements for the automotive industry and ISO/TS 29001 specifies additional system requirements for the oil and gas industry.

The aerospace industry have done this in a different way by specifying additional system requirements in SAE AS9100C for example.

For regulatory/safety reasons the medical device industry removed some requirements (such as continual improvement) from ISO 9001 so they have their own management system standard ISO 13485.

John
 
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vishalkifi

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Dear john,

Thank you veru much for your effective information.


One more thing i need to clarify with you,

Please tell me in short & exact explaination on vital difference between ISO 9001 & Ts 16949


Thanks in advance
vishal kifi.:agree:
 
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Hello vishal kif

The difference between ISO 9001 and TS 16949 is that TS has additional requirements. TS includes all of ISO 9001. So the difference is that TS has more pages and more requirements.

And by the way, ISO 9001 is based on the Plan, Do, Check, Act Process Approach. See 0.2 of ISO 9001. From a Process Approach stand point, there is no difference between ISO 9001 and TS 16949. The is a very elementary basis / management system principle to both standards. This should be understood before anyone begins to read clause 4.1
 
John Broomfield

John Broomfield

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vishalkifi said:
Dear john,

Thank you veru much for your effective information.


One more thing i need to clarify with you,

Please tell me in short & exact explaination on vital difference between ISO 9001 & Ts 16949


Thanks in advance
vishal kifi.:agree:
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Vishal Kifi,

The attachment is a table that describes the potential benefits of every additional process and control specified by ISO/TS 16494 beyond those specified by ISO 9001.

This also defines the differences between the two process-based management system standards.

As you can see there is a lot of value to be had in upgrading systems that conform to ISO 9001 so they also conform to all or most of the requirements of ISO/TS 16949.

John
 

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