ISO/IEC 17025 required for a calibration lab to be ISO certified?

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DuaneG

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Is this standard all thats required for a calibration lab to be ISO certified? Do they also need to be ISO 9001 certified? Is 17025 the same as a2la? :thanx:
 
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Lotsa questions there........

So let's see if we can answer them and put you in the picture..........

Yes, ISO/IEC 17025 is applicable to laboratories. The correct term is accreditation, not certification. The organization who accredits a laboratory will send an auditor who is very familiar with the lab's practices and will audit the 'proficiency' of the lab to perform the test/calibration in the lab's scope.

A lab can be 'ISO' certified but since this normally means to ISO 9001 and, customers now recognize that ISO/IEC 17025 is more appropriate, there's not much point in going after ISO 9001:2000. There are some similarities between ISO/IEC 17025 and ISO 9001:2000, but a lab cannot claim 9001 if they are 17025 (it says pretty much that in 17025, I believe)

A2LA is the first (?) accreditation organization and will audit a lab to ISO/IEC 17025 - they are similar to a registrar, and you can choose others.

I hope this helps:agree1:

Andy
 

Hershal

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A few points......

A cal lab can be ISO registered under 9K.....however, that is insufficient level of rigor for accreditation.....some customers only need the 9K, but most that would require an external oversight require accreditation, which means 9K is a good beginning but only that.

Now, accreditation means ISO/IEC 17025, under either the 1999 or 2005 version, depending on the accrediting body's transition schedule for its accredited labs.

No, 17025 accreditation is NOT - REPEAT NOT - the same as A2LA.....A2LA is ONE accrediting body operating in North America.....oh, they also are not the first, there are two other U.S. based accrediting bodies that are older.....IAS (the older of those two) and NVLAP.

IF YOU ARE SEEKING ACCREDITATION - or about to - then talk to ALL the recognized accrediting bodies in North America before deciding on one. Get quotes from all to include estimated number of assessor days, total cost (except maybe for expenses), renewal options, and so forth. So who to ask?

International recognition:

IAS
NVLAP
A2LA
SCC/CLAS (Canada)
EMA (Mexico)

NACLA (basically U.S. only) recognition:

L-A-B
ACLASS

Hope this helps.

Hershal
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#6
DuaneG said:
Is this standard all thats required for a calibration lab to be ISO certified? Do they also need to be ISO 9001 certified? Is 17025 the same as a2la? :thanx:

I understand a lot of the ISO 9001 stuff is incorporated into the 17025 standard.
 

Sidney Vianna

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#7
Indeed.

hjilling said:
I understand a lot of the ISO 9001 stuff is incorporated into the 17025 standard.
According to note 1.6 of ISO 17025:2005, a lab that complies with 17025 would also be in compliance with the principles of ISO 9001, for testing and calibration activities.
 
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