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Hi Everyone,
About a year ago I changed companies within the same field. My last company was ISO 9001 and ISO 14000 Certified, and I help them get that way. Now I am going through the same thing again, except we need to be ISO/TS 16949:2002 Certified.
I do not know if it is me or just the consultant that we have hired, but I am missing something here. TS is built on top of ISO; I get that just fine. But know the manual is writen like three different processes (MOP's, COP's,and SOP's)? I do not get this and I wrote our manual like like a QMS manual to cover all of the required points. Our consultant is not happy, but is resigned to the fact that it will work. But now to the grit of my issue.
I was always taught, and never had an audit issue, to have some general question on the checklist; but then the auditor should review the process document and any and all past audits to come up with questions for the audit. Apparently, I am being told, a TS audit is much more like an ISO document review; making sure that we are complying with all of the topic shall statements.
How is this auditing our processes? To me; I am being told that each audit we are actually doing more of a document audit with some process interviewing thrown in. Is this right? Can someone clarify this for me, since our consultant doe's not seem to be able to explain it to me?
Thanks,
Stan
About a year ago I changed companies within the same field. My last company was ISO 9001 and ISO 14000 Certified, and I help them get that way. Now I am going through the same thing again, except we need to be ISO/TS 16949:2002 Certified.
I do not know if it is me or just the consultant that we have hired, but I am missing something here. TS is built on top of ISO; I get that just fine. But know the manual is writen like three different processes (MOP's, COP's,and SOP's)? I do not get this and I wrote our manual like like a QMS manual to cover all of the required points. Our consultant is not happy, but is resigned to the fact that it will work. But now to the grit of my issue.
I was always taught, and never had an audit issue, to have some general question on the checklist; but then the auditor should review the process document and any and all past audits to come up with questions for the audit. Apparently, I am being told, a TS audit is much more like an ISO document review; making sure that we are complying with all of the topic shall statements.
How is this auditing our processes? To me; I am being told that each audit we are actually doing more of a document audit with some process interviewing thrown in. Is this right? Can someone clarify this for me, since our consultant doe's not seem to be able to explain it to me?
Thanks,
Stan
