ISO / TS 16949 Draft "Disapproved"? December 2001 US TAG ISO/TC 176

[km2red]

I was searching, trying to get any additional info on if the 2002 draft was on schedule to be relased in March. I came across this:

"Good news? ISO/TS 16949:1999 will be around for longer. Why? The December 2001 US TAG ISO/TC 176 "disapproved" the draft of ISO/TS 16949:2002. This action resulted in that the upcoming edition of the "International Automotive Standard" most likely will be delayed past the pre-committed date of March 2002. We will keep this page with news on the progress of ISO/TS 16949"

From "Bulltek LTD". Does anyone have any info? How reliable is this source? Our company is looking to get registerd to the 2002 version ASAP, and we would like to know if the March date is Definatly not going to happen for the official release.

 

[Roger Eastin]

Wouldn't this be a fine of kettle of worms? I would be interested to see what they disapproved of!

 

[Howard Atkins]

According to my information, a presentation at https://www.autotrain.org
(you can see these for free)
According to ISO rules a TS- Technical specification can only be valid for 3 years and if it is not approved by spring 2002 then it falls and they need to begin again.

 

[Marc]

This could prove interesting... :thedeal:

 

[Howard Atkins]

Some slight corrections after more checking:

ISO/TS Technical Specification
A normative document representing the technical consensus within an ISO committee

The way it is done

a) A TC/SC may decide that a particular work item should result in publication of a technical specification. Normally this decision should be agreed at the outset, i.e. simultaneously with approval of the NP. The text is developed through the preparatory and committee stages at the end of which the text shall be submitted for a three month vote by the P-members of the committee to approve publication of the document as a technical specification. Acceptance of the document requires approval by 2/3 of the P-members. If the acceptance criterion is satisfied the document shall be sent to the Central Secretariat for publication as an ISO/TS.

b) In cases in which a committee had decided to produce an International Standard, but subsequently discovered that there was insufficient support for the publication of a standard, the committee may agree, by the above process, to publish the document as a technical specification.

c) Any P-member or category A or D-liaison organization of a committee may propose that an existing document be considered for adoption as a technical specification. The process for approval is as described in a). NB: A-type liaison: participation by an organization in a TC or SC which can make an effective contribution to the work of the committee. D-type liaison: participation at the working group level only or contribution to a specific project

NOTES

As defined above, technical specifications essentially replace the existing type 1 and type 2 technical reports. (As described later, this latter type of publication is retained for purely informative documents – formerly, type 3 technical reports.)

Technical specifications may be processed in one language only.

Competing technical specifications offering different technical solutions are possible provided that they do not conflict with existing International Standards. (A TC/SC may decide to revise an ISO standard to allow conflicting technical specifications.)

Technical specifications shall be reviewed at least every three years to decide either to confirm the technical specification for a further three years, revise the technical specification, process it further to become an International Standard or withdraw the technical specification. After six years, a technical specification shall either be converted into an International Standard or be withdrawn.

ISO member bodies may adopt technical specifications and publish them as documents having the same level of authority as the ISO/TS.

https://www.iso.ch/iso/en/stdsdevelopment/whowhenhow/proc/deliverables/iso_ts.html

Below is an answer to Marcs previous question as to the time table.

 

[Marc]

Howard sent me this:

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> The way it is done

Supposedly...

 

[M Greenaway]

You should know that ISO/TS16949 is now being revised in line with ISO9001:2000. Due for publication in March 2002, it is currently in final draft status and will be issued as ISO/TS16949:2002 - so hold any of your horses just yet.

 

[km2red]

My boss contacted the IAOB yesterday, and H. Hodder said that the draft was still due to be finalized in March of 2002, so it seems that things are still on track....or that's what they want us to believe...

 

[Laura M]

If it is approved, does anyone know what the registration scheme is? Is there a "table H" (from QS equivalent) on required "man-days."

Laura

 

[Howard Atkins]

We are talking about the 2000 version or so I believed

Man days