ISO/TS 16949 Rules about Commodities

[marcusja2002]

I have been taught throughout my career when it comes to traceability commodities can be accepted at face value, I bought a semiconductor, I bought flour. Would a specific M20 nut that the supplier makes for multiple customers fall under this same category or would this need a deeper trace, material, properties and such for each shipment?

 

[lk2012]

hi, can you elaborate on your question a bit please?
If you're worried about traceability on nuts, the supplier should be able to give you information such as composition. Bulk items like this may be a tricky job on traceability.

 

[Stijloor]

I have been taught throughout my career when it comes to traceability commodities can be accepted at face value, I bought a semiconductor, I bought flour. Would a specific M20 nut that the supplier makes for multiple customers fall under this same category or would this need a deeper trace, material, properties and such for each shipment?

It all depends what your customer and your organization require. ISO/TS 16949:2009 in 7.5.3 states: "Where traceability is a requirement, the organization shall control the unique identification of the product and maintain records (see 4.2.4)."

So if the M20 nut eventually ends up on a vehicle, traceability may be required.

Keep in mind that automotive hardware purchased from a distributor, PPAP is required.

Best advise? Talk to your Customer.

 

[marcusja2002]

The components are PPAP's, but there were never any specifics beyond M20 nut. They did specify the metal used for the rest of the product though.

Would I find the information in the supplier manual or is it usually just easiest to speak directly with the customer.

 

[Stijloor]

The components are PPAP's, but there were never any specifics beyond M20 nut. They did specify the metal used for the rest of the product though.

Would I find the information in the supplier manual or is it usually just easiest to speak directly with the customer.

You can look at the Supplier Manual, but your safest bet is to contact the Customer directly. Better safe than sorry.