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ISO/TS16949 (to become IATF 16949:2016) alignment to ISO 9001:2015

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Unfortunately, this is a sad joke. Draft isn't published yet, so we no nothing about what's "new" and how it will deviate from ISO. You'll basically have a year to change over and certify. Auditors need to be trained over the next several months. And by Oct 2017, no more certification to old TS. Don't think there are enough auditors to get it done.
 
#63
And since it is no longer an ISO standard, will they accept the standard ISO interpretations of the ISO referenced parts, or will they create their own interpretations?
 

howste

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#64
And since it is no longer an ISO standard, will they accept the standard ISO interpretations of the ISO referenced parts, or will they create their own interpretations?
I think that was already answered in the press release Sidney posted:

"IATF 16949:2016 will fully respect ISO 9001:2015 structure and requirements. IATF 16949:2016 is not a stand-alone quality management standard, but is implemented as a supplement to, and in conjunction with, ISO 9001:2015."
 

Sidney Vianna

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#65
But the "formal interpretations" are not normative and are constrained by the fact that they have to be "conservative" since, in many cases, the context of the issue is not defined.

For example, the interpretation RFI 117 (below) would be very hard to sell to Automotive OEM's


I would think in the automotive supply chain, the customers would DEMAND to be informed if the suppliers have realized they've shipped nonconforming products. After all, if the defective product reaches the end product and the consumers, a recall cost could be astronomical, as we all know.
 
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Sidney Vianna

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The joint press release issued earlier this week states the following about the upcoming IATF 16949:2016 standard:
It will be aligned with and refer to the most recent version of ISO’s quality management systems standard, ISO 9001:2015. IATF 16949:2016 will fully respect ISO 9001:2015 structure and requirements. IATF 16949:2016 is not a stand-alone quality management standard, but is implemented as a supplement to, and in conjunction with, ISO 9001:2015.
which, in my understanding means that, the IATF 16949:2016 will be a document formatted as (an example) the AQAP 2110 document.

So, differently from (as an example) AS9100, which contains the ISO 9001 text and includes it's augmentations, apparently, the IATF 16949 document will just reference the ISO 9001 clauses and subclauses. That will force the adopters of the automotive standard to, mandatorily, obtain a copy of the ISO 9001:2015 standard, as a starting point. A small detail but as we approach 60,000 organizations certified to ISO/TS 16949 worldwide, it is worth noticing that, in my estimation.
 
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