Japanese companies don?t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Quality

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wmarhel

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

Helmut,

You've hit the nail on the head! :applause:

Stijloor.
Yes, but with what degree of accuracy and precision? Maybe a Six Sigma project could be used to help determine the results. :notme:

Wayne
 
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sridharafep

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

I am delighted to go through all the experts’ views on this hot topic / subject and the thread is increasing its wings to share info. Every one agrees that any Quality tools ultimately aimed for improvement!

As a human character, everyone support what they are practicing or they are doing as a profession. If you ask a SS consultant he will say it is excellent tool and on implementation you will save / reduce scrape by 50% etc., since the project cycle time is very high and some other factors, measurement would be really difficult.

I mean there are many companies want to adopt and like to put them in this Brand SS and not be away from other competitors. What would you suggest, for a new entrant company to work on Six sigma?

What are the basic requirements other than top management (CEO) commitment? I mean what kind of basic platform (in detail) they must have before taking the SS in hand.

Sridhar

Customers today expect every interaction to be fast, convenient and easy. Keep customers loyal is one of the greatest challenges for businesses around the globe!
 

Jen Kirley

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

If you ask a SS consultant he will say it is excellent tool and on implementation you will save / reduce scrape by 50% etc., since the project cycle time is very high and some other factors, measurement would be really difficult.

I mean there are many companies want to adopt and like to put them in this Brand SS and not be away from other competitors. What would you suggest, for a new entrant company to work on Six sigma?

What are the basic requirements other than top management (CEO) commitment? I mean what kind of basic platform (in detail) they must have before taking the SS in hand.
I would say not to make the matter too complicated.

The problem with using other people's paradigms is that you may be trying to force your company into an ill-fitting system. Instead, make a system that works for you.

Japanese gurus have said there is almost nothing that can't be addressed with the Seven Quality Tools. I agree. In fact, I find the essentials of 6S are actually the time honored quality tools. They're packaged as 6S by people who have done so for the sake of managing the methods in a repeatable way. And that's fine if you can work the thing without needing a lot of training and structuring. Just don't tell yourself you must have fewer than 3 PPM defects in order to call a success a success. The Japanese greats have built up their reputations over a period of decades of incremental, steady improvements.

In order to make quality management tools work for you instead of you working for them, I recommend the book businessThink by Marcum and Smith. These authors have placed Quality Speak in every day, conversational terms that are designed to build success into an organization's everyday practices.

Do that and 6S becomes just another tool box.
 

Jim Wynne

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You know, there are some topics on this Forum that inflame passions, and this is one of them. SS is not bad or good, ISO is not bad or good, etc. They are methods, systems, that package basically the same quality tools.
You have to consider that sometimes passion is not just kneejerking, and not a solely emotional response. My own concern is that SS is a significant step backwards in the quest for quality improvement, and I get a little tired of the act of pointing out the emperor's nakedness being characterized as "bashing." Consider the foundations of SS:
  1. It's built on principles that are either demonstrably false (the 1.5 shift) or unnecessarily complex (DPMO, DMAIC).
  2. Nearly all of its proponents make unverifiable or demonstrably false claims of success
  3. The expense of training and maintenance don't have demonstrable ROI in most cases, especially when compared to traditional methods
I could go on, but suffice it to say that what I feel passionate about is the fact that as SS gains ascendancy, we seem to be seeing product quality and profitability--especially in the U.S.-- moving in the opposite direction. People need to have a basic understanding of variation, probability, and logic in process design. Given those basic skills, we need leadership that understands that enduring product quality is not the result of slogans, colorful belts, and finagled mathematics and that short-term fiscal performance is not a reliable yardstick.
 
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somerqc

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

:applause:

I couldn't have said it better!

:applause:
 
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sridharafep

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

What would be the future of SS banner?

Sridhar
 

Steve Prevette

Deming Disciple
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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

What would be the future of SS banner?

Sridhar
My opinion is that it will fade away. Unfortunately, it will probably just be replaced with another fad, that will make a small cadre of consultants a lot of press and a lot of money. Seven Tau!
 
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somerqc

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

Steve,

Now that is funny (seven tau!)....unfortunately probably true too! :truce:
 
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sridharafep

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Re: Japanese companies don’t adopt SIX SIGMA / ISO - Still they are leading in Qualit

Could we hear from our experts / implementer (SS Deployment) about their factual achievment interms of monitory benifit. How many of us failed in using this SS tool after spending a lot of resources / time.

Sridhar

Customers today expect every interaction to be fast, convenient and easy. Keep customers loyal is one of the greatest challenges for businesses around the globe!
 
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