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Joint ISO TS 29001 and ISO 9001 Certification - One or two certificates?

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Matrix45

#1
If an organisation already holds ISO 9001:2008 certification then transition to ISO 29001 can happen. Relevant audits will be carried out to upgrade their quality management certification but will this be one certificate (ISO TS 29001 is 9001 in its entirety with additional supplimentary requirements) or will both certificates (ISO 29001 & 9001) still need to apply?
 

Sidney Vianna

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#2
Re: ISO 29001 Certification

Assuming that you have a properly accredited ISO 9001 certificate, you will have to end up with two certificates because, to the best of my knowledge, no accreditation scheme exists for the ISO TS 29001 standard. Thus all certificates issued against that Technical Specificaction are not accredited.
 

John Broomfield

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#4
If an organisation already holds ISO 9001:2008 certification then transition to ISO 29001 can happen. Relevant audits will be carried out to upgrade their quality management certification but will this be one certificate (ISO TS 29001 is 9001 in its entirety with additional supplimentary requirements) or will both certificates (ISO 29001 & 9001) still need to apply?
Matrix,

What benefit to you expect from making sure your organization's management system conforms to ISO/TS 29001?

Is it to keep a current customer happy or to prequalify for work with new clients?

Many thanks,

John
 
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Matrix45

#5
John.
Because the oil and gas industry requires to be regulated in the UK, I feel it is important that they work to ISO 29001. However because of low interest and costs , ISO 29001 is not accredited. It used to be linked to API Q1, but because intellectual property ownership, the linkage is now broken. Whilst some organisations may conform to the standard, internal audit plans do not and do not cover the supplementary requirements of ISO 29001 - there are continuos issues concerning these required supplementary requirements. Some clients require ISO 29001 but generally it would be to ensure that we meet the requirements of the standard. Hope this answers your question?
 

John Broomfield

Staff member
Super Moderator
#6
John.
Because the oil and gas industry requires to be regulated in the UK, I feel it is important that they work to ISO 29001. However because of low interest and costs , ISO 29001 is not accredited. It used to be linked to API Q1, but because intellectual property ownership, the linkage is now broken. Whilst some organisations may conform to the standard, internal audit plans do not and do not cover the supplementary requirements of ISO 29001 - there are continuos issues concerning these required supplementary requirements. Some clients require ISO 29001 but generally it would be to ensure that we meet the requirements of the standard. Hope this answers your question?
Matrix,

Thanks. Do the additional requirements in the TS provide benefits to your organization and your clients?

Or are they a waste of time?

If they do provide benefits, then quietly conforming to the tech spec as well as ISO 9001 might be a good idea.

ohn
 
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