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Layered Process Audit Examples

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Antolio

#21
Re: Layered Process Audits - Looking for examples

Hi All i am new in this forum, and now have kick off LPA project , my question is what is the differance between layer 1 , 2 and 3 is the check sheet item is same ?? Thanks
 

Kales Veggie

People: The Vital Few
#22
The layers are different layers of management. For example layer 1 is the team leader, audits everyday. Layer 2 is the supervisor, audits once per week rotates, Layer 3 is the area manager, audits every month on rotation through his/her area of responsibility. A variation is to have higher level management audits other areas than their own. (You can have more than 3 layers of auditing as well). The name of the layers vary because organizational structures of organizations are different (e.g. some may not have supervisor or team leaders) and larger organizations may have more layers.

Yes, the sheet should be the same for LPA to work the best. Once the organization has decided which is critical, high risk and important to be included on the LPA check sheets, then all auditor should use the same.
 
#23
Yes, the sheet should be the same for LPA to work the best. Once the organization has decided which is critical, high risk and important to be included on the LPA check sheets, then all auditor should use the same.
Kes: From memory - so forgive me if I'm wrong - isn't part of the higher layers checklist, to verify corrective actions have been taken? This was an additional check on their list.

When I implemented LPAs, part of the idea was to elevate CA to the higher management for them to remove roadblocks...
 

Kales Veggie

People: The Vital Few
#24
Kes: From memory - so forgive me if I'm wrong - isn't part of the higher layers checklist, to verify corrective actions have been taken? This was an additional check on their list.

When I implemented LPAs, part of the idea was to elevate CA to the higher management for them to remove roadblocks...
"I forgive you" :agree:

I have always worked with the same checklist for all layers.

When a corrective action is implemented, the checklist should be reviewed and may be updated. (and PFMEA and other quality documentation updated, as necessary)

Roadblocks should be reported on the "walk about board" in the department and higher management should visit those frequently. Why wait a month or so for higher management to do the LPA to work on removing roadblocks?
 
C

Connycha

#25
Where is it stated, that all layers have to use the same questionaire? I did not find something in GM- or Chrysler documents!
Does somebody can give me a clear reference?

Thanks in advance!
 

Kales Veggie

People: The Vital Few
#26
LPA are about auditing critical items for product quality frequently and by different levels of management.

I think it is implied in 2.2 of CQI:8 that the same checklists are used by all levels of the LPA. Also CQI:8 does not say that the checklist could be different.

I would ask myself: Are the critical items for product quality different for the team leader and the plant manager? It should not be ! (Why would a plant manager check a critical item only one time per month?)
 
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