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ISO Guy,
A long time ago I learned not to offer ideas to management type people. Managers are a strange breed of people, they can accept the responsibility ( if it's written down) but have prblems accepting the accountability part. Therfore it's useless to offer ideas.
As a quality manager/Data collector I gather the the data and report it at our monthly meeting. Any sugesstions for improvement come directly from those mangers that are affected.
As a management rep. (far easier job) I interpret and explain the requirements, then ask the appropriate manager " What will you do to meet the requirements? Write it down." Any questions, complaints or noncompliance issues from internal audits are referred to the 3rd party auditor.
Sometimes this approach will cause managers to be a little more cooperative, sometimes it doesn't.
Life goes on , but it's a lot less disruptive when you set your boundries.
A long time ago I learned not to offer ideas to management type people. Managers are a strange breed of people, they can accept the responsibility ( if it's written down) but have prblems accepting the accountability part. Therfore it's useless to offer ideas.
As a quality manager/Data collector I gather the the data and report it at our monthly meeting. Any sugesstions for improvement come directly from those mangers that are affected.
As a management rep. (far easier job) I interpret and explain the requirements, then ask the appropriate manager " What will you do to meet the requirements? Write it down." Any questions, complaints or noncompliance issues from internal audits are referred to the 3rd party auditor.
Sometimes this approach will cause managers to be a little more cooperative, sometimes it doesn't.
Life goes on , but it's a lot less disruptive when you set your boundries.
) and he sure keeps me on my toes. 
