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Helmut Jilling

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db said:
We had this exact thing pop up several years ago. According to the O.E.M. customer, since the owner's manuals are place in the vehicle (installed in the glove box), they are considered a production part. The same thing would apply to labels that were printed to be fixed on a production or service part. I thought that was a weak argument, but the registrar agreed with the O.E.M.
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Yeah, I heard the same thing. The manual had a production part number assigned to it therefore it was a production part. Seems like a silly argument, but they're the boss. It really wasn't what TS was created for. ISO 9001 would have been fine.
 
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Howard Atkins

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In the Sanctioned Interpretations the following is stated
ISO/TS 16949 is applicable to all sites of a client
where customer-specified production parts and/or
service parts are manufactured.

?Customer-specified production parts? shall be understood as parts that are an integral part of a vehicle. The only customer-specified parts that do
not meet this requirement but are to be included are the following: fire extinguisher, car jacks, floor mats, and owner?s manual. (my emphasis)
 
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jaysonryanremorin

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Helmut Jilling said:
I am pretty sure "Testing" was never within the applicability criteria for TS, even the older editions. It only applies to value-added manufacturing sites.
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Thanks Helmut Jilling for the correction, yes testing was never been within the applicability.
 
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jaysonryanremorin

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Howard Atkins said:
Good news
In the
?Customer-specified production parts? shall be understood as parts that are an integral part of a vehicle. The only customer-specified parts that do
not meet this requirement but are to be included are the following: fire extinguisher, car jacks, floor mats, and owner?s manual. (my emphasis)
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kind request, how about like car navigation system?
 
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