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qcman012856

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I have been through two audits with this auditor. I am told that this auditor has been visiting our company for at least the past 10 years. The registrar, to my knowledge, has never asked for input from us regarding the auditor's performance. Looks like it may be time to ask the registrar for a fresh set of eyes????:confused:
 
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Re: Management Review Meetings - Auditor issued an Area of Concern regarding our meth

qcman012856 said:
I have been through two audits with this auditor. I am told that this auditor has been visiting our company for at least the past 10 years. The registrar, to my knowledge, has never asked for input from us regarding the auditor's performance. Looks like it may be time to ask the registrar for a fresh set of eyes????:confused:
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The eyes may be OK, it may be the mouth and/or brain that needs replacement.
 
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qcman012856 said:
I have been through two audits with this auditor. I am told that this auditor has been visiting our company for at least the past 10 years. The registrar, to my knowledge, has never asked for input from us regarding the auditor's performance. Looks like it may be time to ask the registrar for a fresh set of eyes????:confused:
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I'm also surprised that your registrar isn't more diligent in soliciting feedback on performance! It's been 10 years..........?????

Even if I didn't work for one, I'd still want to find out why a supplier (CB) didn't ask the client, "How are we doing?". Sets a tone for their auditors, doesn't it?
 
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Groo3

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qcman012856 said:
I am told that this auditor has been visiting our company for at least the past 10 years.
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It also raises the question if they have been auditing your site for 10 years or more, why the issue only came up recently? What brought on this sudden perception that once a year is required?


howste said:
The eyes may be OK, it may be the mouth and/or brain that needs replacement.
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:lmao:... Sad (and funny), but true. Or maybe their ears need to be checked? maybe the home office said "At Least" once a year? and what they heard was "blah blah" once a year?
 
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qcman012856

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This is the first audit we have gone through with the new format for MRM. Previously the company was meeting for two consecutive days each quarter. I am told that people used to dread this like it was a plague. (BTW, I have been with this company for 14 months). After the 2008 audit the plant manager and I sat down to try and come up with a much more effective and productive meeting. This format has significantly increased the productivity of the meetings.:tg:
 
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More effective ? Try email, Skype or some other method
 
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qcman012856 said:
I have been through two audits with this auditor. I am told that this auditor has been visiting our company for at least the past 10 years. The registrar, to my knowledge, has never asked for input from us regarding the auditor's performance. Looks like it may be time to ask the registrar for a fresh set of eyes????:confused:
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Wow, my registrar asks about every auditor, after ever audit.
 
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Randy said:
Well now girls I don't think we have the whole story yet....

Who are the members of Top management?

What is the necessary or required quorum for an official or valid MR to take place?

It looks like the organization has created their own time frame for MRM to take place in their manual and their requirement now supercedes 9001. We need to know memebership of TM and the "who" must be involved in MRM at a minimum. A lack of information here could provide an indication of weakness in meeting 4.2.1 (d)
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Minimum quorum FOR an MRM is (by a common sense approach and not specified):-
I. A person from top management with full executive powers
II. The MR.
III.representative of Marketing
IV.Representative of product development and product realization
V.Representative of Quality Assurance
V. In the event of resignation of MR, a replacement should be made without delay.

In the Absense of top management the MRM should be cancelled.
Other absences are of less significant and may be permitted by TM.
V.J.Brahmaiah
 
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brahmaiah said:
Minimum quorum FOR an MRM is (by a common sense approach and not specified):-
I. A person from top management with full executive powers
II. The MR.
III.representative of Marketing
IV.Representative of product development and product realization
V.Representative of Quality Assurance
V. In the event of resignation of MR, a replacement should be made without delay.

In the Absense of top management the MRM should be cancelled.
Other absences are of less significant and may be permitted by TM.
V.J.Brahmaiah
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Quite incorrect....My company has no marketing, product development or product realization person or QA so now what do I do?

You need to get away from titles because they really don't mean diddly beyond the individual organization.
 
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