Management Review Requirements - TS 16949 Clause 5.6.1

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Quality-1

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As far as I understand under QS 9000, Management Review cannot be conducted without President and Management Rep.

Is it same condition for TS 16949. All it says Top Management. What about if President does not attends but other VP's attend Management Review. What if Management Rep is unavaliable but all othe rTop Maanagement is available for Management Review.

Any comments?

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David Mullins

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Man. Review doesn't have to be a meeting.
Man. Rep. Reports.
Senior Management review.
Actions are documented / whatever. (proof of review - distro list even)

The degree of simplicity is in your imagination. Change your mindset -or your company's.
 

Manoj Mathur

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Thank You Mr. Mullins

Your defination of MRM gave me a new insight. But I would like to ask that once again that in a day to day basis we review the Business objectives, Process parameters, Vendors issues, Quality Rejections etc. Does this also would be complience to MRM ?.
 
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There are four basic steps in the process of management review for top management;

- Review the results,
- Take action on the results,
- Record the results,
-Follow-up on the actions taken.

If your daily review meets these requirements then, IMO it could be considered a management review.

As Dave said, there really doesn,t have to be a meeting. Use your imagination to create the desired output.
 
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Quality-1, welcome to the Cove!!! :bigwave:



What about if President does not attends but other VP's attend Management Review?
One reason for the change is to allow for more flexibility. If the VP's have the R&A (Responsibility and Authority) to make changes as a result of the review, then I think you are okay. If they must report to the Prez following the meeting, then THAT is when the real MR occurs.

The key here is that you want the folks that lead the organization to have the information they need to make good decisions. If that occurs during a meeting, that's okay. If that occurs over time, as opposed to a single event, (and it works) then that would be okay as well. I would just make sure what ever way you choose to fulfill the requirements, you document the method so you and others know what you're doing and why.

Good question...keep 'em coming.
 
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Quality-1

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Thank you

Thank you to all for taking your time in responding to my question. Have a wonderful day!
 
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David Mullins

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Manoj Mathur said:

Thank You Mr. Mullins

Your defination of MRM gave me a new insight. But I would like to ask that once again that in a day to day basis we review the Business objectives, Process parameters, Vendors issues, Quality Rejections etc. Does this also would be complience to MRM ?.

Short answer - yes.
Even if there are no minutes of the review.
Attendees or the distribution list simply confirm the review and associated activities.
 

Shaun Daly

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I work in a company where the MD is Japanese and never there, and the 3 senior managers leak straw when they walk.

I produce a very nice MR (always complimented by the assessors).

This is then given to the managers to read, agree & sign.

If they quibble about corrective actions, I;

a) print out my notice.
b) Get them to change their minds.
 
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sajunair

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Hi all,
The auditors may not agree to the day to day review as MR. I had a similar concept but failed to convince the auditor. A major NC with me now.
 

Cari Spears

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sajunair said:
Hi all,
The auditors may not agree to the day to day review as MR. I had a similar concept but failed to convince the auditor. A major NC with me now.
Hi sajunair - please, do tell. With some more details, maybe the exact wording used in your Major NC, many of the covers could help you out.
 
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