Randy said:
Registrars have the absolute right to impose "special" requirements above and beyond just auditing the implimentation of the standard.
Randy: I agree you're just an angry Teddy Bear and do very well with your programs. I sift through your posts and garner a lot of good points. That aside:
Why are we buying the ISO International Standards, if the registrars impose additional requirements ? Shouldnt we be buying a standard from the registrars, instead ?
Now, I'll put this in terms you'll understand.
Unless you can show me, in writing, where the governing bodies of ISO state that registrars can impose additional requirments outside of their International Standard, you're full of sh*t ! (I had a crabby 10th grade teacher, too)
And it (my "s") stinks too
Here is a small excerpt from IAF Guide 62 (you may need to format it for easier viewing):
2.1.5. Conditions for granting, maintaining, extending, reducing, suspending, and withdrawing certification / registration IAF Guidance to clause 2.1.5. (G.2.1.42. – G.2.1.45.)
G.2.1.42. Clause 2.1.5 of ISO/IEC Guide 62 does not mention a specific period in which at least one complete internal audit and one management review of the organization’s quality management system shall take place. The certification / registration body may specify a period.
Irrespective of whether the certification / registration body has chosen to specify a minimum frequency, measures shall be established by the certification / registration body to ensure the effectiveness of the organization’s management review and internal audit processes.
G.2.1.43. Certification / registration shall not be granted until there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that the arrangements for management review and internal audit have been implemented, are effective and will be maintained.
To counter your statement show me where thay can't impose requirements. They are "required to insure conformance or compliance to the applicable standard", how they do that is many times left to them and is a matter of contarctural agreement.