Slickpick
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In your opinion - what do you think the root cause of this is? Is it the new generations work ethic? Company cultures changing? Veterans of the trade leaving the work force? Or something else?
Managers - Are you seeing an uptick in falsified resumes?
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I read this LI article, which I thought was timely. It was the best LI article I've read in quite awhile. I have to agree I have had very few good bosses in my 45 year career. I think that, metaphorically speaking most were more interested in lifting their own boats than lifting everyone's boats. And they were put in place by people who also were interested in lifting their own boats. I have very often been used to make someone else look good. These days they find it imperative to shine, to look exceptional - their employees (me, in my own case) will do the work that makes it happen. I have seen these people climb the corporate ladder quite well, whereas I just jump to another job to get ahead. I usually last around 6 years, but sometimes less when it was unbearable to stay.
As for lying on/embellishing a resume (the same thing in my view): I have read the estimate at 20% of people who do this. That was before AI, nowadays people might reason it away by thinking "If I didn't write it myself, how could it be lying?" People do it because we are more aware than ever that we're being screened by machines. Applying for work has become sort of like trying to game the casinos. But the House almost always wins.
One of the most prevalent lies I see on a resume is “Highly competent in Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint”.
I read an article once that said more than 50% of people lie about this on their resume, and we were recruiting at the time so decided to put this to the test.
All six candidates stated they were proficient in Excel but when presented with a spreadsheet containing Jan to December and a value assigned to each month, only two candidates could create a simple graph from the data.
I read an article once that said more than 50% of people lie about this on their resume, and we were recruiting at the time so decided to put this to the test.
All six candidates stated they were proficient in Excel but when presented with a spreadsheet containing Jan to December and a value assigned to each month, only two candidates could create a simple graph from the data.
Societal changes are probably driving this. I do see generational differences. Boomers would put in the effort and were mostly loyal to the company to a fault. Gen X put in the effort, but recognized that the company was not loyal to them so were more willing to change companies. Millennials tend to be less patient and many expect to move up faster than openings become available and tend to change companies more frequently (my company did a study and found that the peak turnover period was 3-5 years. If we could retain them past 5 years, they would usually stay). Gen Z seems very unpredictable and often has unreasonable expectations.
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All of the above combined with expectations of relaxed "give-a-^hititis" we see across the board.
There seems to be a lot of uncertainty in the job market right now. Apparently AI can write code with a level of professionalism that's fairly decent. I think the younger generation isn't familiar with the world before the era of electronic worlds. They live in an electronic virtual world and think "Its not so bad? Why the rush to make things better?" The problem is relaxing doesn't maintain the status quo. Progress is tough to come by. It has to be maintained.
Progress isn't a straight line. Its millions of lines together. They must all be worked on to maintain the current world. The options are only "make things better" or "make things worse" The idea there is a third option to "Keep the status quo" is an illusion.
Babies are born into the world knowing one thing: How to complain. They cry right away because they realize how much work needs to be done still.
Progress isn't a straight line. Its millions of lines together. They must all be worked on to maintain the current world. The options are only "make things better" or "make things worse" The idea there is a third option to "Keep the status quo" is an illusion.
Babies are born into the world knowing one thing: How to complain. They cry right away because they realize how much work needs to be done still.
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First, let me just say excess job hopping will almost certainly get your resume rejected by my company (and most I have worked for). Just to define, I would consider job hopping less than 3 years in a position, but that's an arguable definition. As a manager, I value stability and want to hire someone who will be with us for the long term...because we're going to invest in our employees and we want a return on our investment.
With that said, I have not been receiving resumes with falsified credentials or experience, but I sure get a lot that aren't even remotely qualified for the job. And, most recently, I got a bunch of resumes from other countries. I'm more than willing to flex a little on what I am asking for, if a candidate has somewhat relevant experience and demonstrates a good fit for our company culture, but to apply for a CMM Programmer position when you've never even inspected a part or even worked in a quality role is wasting my time. Did you not read the ad? I even had a person apply for a technical role that had never even worked in an industrial setting.
And yes, the salaries people are asking for these days. Yikes. But there seems to be more jobs than candidates, so I won't blame a person for leveraging themselves. Heck, if I wasn't a year or two from retirement, I might be out there leveraging myself, too.
With that said, I have not been receiving resumes with falsified credentials or experience, but I sure get a lot that aren't even remotely qualified for the job. And, most recently, I got a bunch of resumes from other countries. I'm more than willing to flex a little on what I am asking for, if a candidate has somewhat relevant experience and demonstrates a good fit for our company culture, but to apply for a CMM Programmer position when you've never even inspected a part or even worked in a quality role is wasting my time. Did you not read the ad? I even had a person apply for a technical role that had never even worked in an industrial setting.
And yes, the salaries people are asking for these days. Yikes. But there seems to be more jobs than candidates, so I won't blame a person for leveraging themselves. Heck, if I wasn't a year or two from retirement, I might be out there leveraging myself, too.
I'll answer your question -- no they don't read the ad. I haven't been on the job seeking side for 30 years, so I am not familiar with how these new job sites work from the employee perspective (I'm old school classified newspaper ads, lol). But it seems to me, it just pushes these jobs posts to every breathing human, and all they need to do is "click to apply." Almost zero thought or effort goes into it.
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